Boilermate 2000, help!!

[feathers1981]

I have just moved into a house. It has a brand new Worcester boiler (not a combi) and a boilermate 2000. Have no instructions for he boilermate (although I did find a manual online) and am totally baffled by the whole system. Think I have most go my head around it but am having difficultly with the timer. It's a dial type timer, not digital. I can set it to 'on' 'off' or 'timer'. Am I right in thinking that it should always be set to on? Therefore do I need to just turn the thermostat up when I want it? Do I set the timers for the actual heating but still leave it in on? If I set it to timer mode does this mean that the hot water will be on a timer, which I think is not the point of the system?

Confused!! Basically we want hot water early morning and early evening and then heating to come on when the thermostat drops below about 18deg.

thanks in advance for any help!!

ps...can I get a new timer that would allow different times for weekend and weekdays or am I stuck with the one on the boilermate?

 

[mountainman]

A boilermate is a thermal store which stores a mass of water at a high temperature.
This water is used directly to heat your radiators and indirectly via a heat exchanger to provide mains pressure hot water.
The timer is only for the radiators as in practice the store is kept hot 24/7 to give the best hot water performance.

If the water in the store is too cool then your hot water supply from your taps will be poor and you may find that the radiators won't come on at all.

 

[buckley plumb]

terrible system rip it out and put a small unvented cylinder in

 

[Ermintrude]

Which ones the boiler mate and which is system mate? Is system mate the one with manual fill open vent store? Boiler mate the white box of pleasure? Either way if you need to spend more than 30p on repairs remove and fit unvented . Keep boiler and smile

 

[BLOD]

Boilermate is open vent store & boiler & primaries etc
Systemate has open vent store but boiler & primaries are sealed system - heats store through exchanger

 

[happyflyer]

How do companies get away with manufacturing things like this, what a waste of time.

 

[BLOD]

Feathers1981 - I'd start by fitting a programmable room thermostat in place of your standard stat( leave dial control on boilermate on constant.

Note - this thermostat has nothing to do with the hot water control,

 

[BLOD]

How do companies get away with manufacturing things like this, what a waste of time.

Don't forget they also made the boilermate2 - great piece of kit imoh

 

[Kev the gas]

How do companies get away with manufacturing things like this, what a waste of time.

I moved into a new build home in 2001 with a gledhill boilermate, the hot water performance/ reheat time was fantastic, the heat up time for the rads again was rapid along with a new programmable room stat the system was good.

After 18 months the gas bills were shocking, the boiler running at any time it liked 24 hours a day, even tho it was set up,as accurate as it could be.

After new pump dive and pump delay pcb's and then the suprima pcb it was ripped out @ 24 months of age.

 

[happyflyer]

Once you start to raise the temperature of anything the efficiency goes down, it's not rocket science :hand: that why boilers are now have boilers that condense, jeez don't they know.

 

[village idiot]

I bought my house from new build. All the houses (except the flats that all have no gas supply?) were kitted with Potterton Suprima 60 and a Gledhill Boiler Mate 2000.
In the first 4 years, everything worked like clockwork. Marvelous. When the rads come on, every one of them gets piping hot within 30 seconds. It was that good. Abundant hot water anytime.

Then by year 5, all hell break loose. Radiators will come on whenever hot water is used. Most days, the central heating pipes will be vibrating loudly all over the place? It was like a steam engine of some sort pulsating and trying to take off. Timer for CH refused to obey rules.

When I bought a replacement PCB (£280) for the Gledhill, fitted it and boiler pump light refused to come on, I decided I had had enough. Removed new PCB and returned it to merchant (who told me I cannot be refunded till Gledhill confirm that PCB is naff). No problem I says.
Went home, ripped out the rubbish and fitted a Combi. Job done. Well, except now the missus keeps calling me names? She claims before, she could just turn on the taps and get hot water. Now she has to wait ages. ''Are you sure you fitted this thing correctly? If so, why does it take forever to get hot water? I wish you had left the old boiler. Why did you change it?'' Says her

 

[happyflyer]

I can't think that anyone in their right mind would fit one of these, not certain exactly how they work but me thinks they must raise the storage temperature of the vessel as high as they can and then release it into he system which will be at a lower temperature, their are some people in manufacturing that have some serious crazy ideas and then people fall for it, did I see an electric heater in there, if that's how they get the temperature up higher god help us, this definitely needs to be included in the next release of the building regulations, they are just as daft.

What next, a wall mounted Nuclear boiler the size of an I Phone, you will need to be NSR to fit and service them!:aureola:

 

[kay-jay]

the boiler mate provides the option (in the event of a boiler breakdown) to heat the hot water AND CENTRAL HEATING electrically at the flick of a switch.

 

[happyflyer]

the boiler mate provides the option (in the event of a boiler breakdown) to heat the hot water AND CENTRAL HEATING electrically at the flick of a switch.

An immersion heater won't run the heating load of 10 rads or thereabouts

 

[kay-jay]

An immersion heater won't run the heating load of 10 rads or thereabouts

Never said it would. It has masses of wiring loom and two pcb'S. immersion only heats the water.