What fittings

[Old Account]

Hello all engineers just a quick question to avoid another sort of leak or problem in the future.

What sort of fittings would you use to re install the shower valve ?

The customer told me that the previous plumber has used a kind of silicon / gum stuff to seal the fitting they had a massive leak which caused a big flut in the house

I am not a speedfit / push fit lover at all, I like old school plumbing with copper,pipes.

but what sort of ways or fittings or changes would you do to re connect and seal it without having a problem in the future ?


thanks for help guys

 

[ShaunCorbs]

is that the pic of the installation ?

you have two options

one rip out and start again (best option if you can)

two male iron to copper/push fit

 

[Phil]

Sounds like he's use LSX or something to seal the threads.... Where was it leaking from, the male irons? If so which side?

PS...you need a new blade in your Multimaster...

 

[Old Account]

is that the pic of the installation ?

you have two options

one rip out and start again (best option if you can)

Thank you you two for your help so far !


This picture is from the customer I received today I haven't been there yet going there tomorrow morning.

I cannot tell you exactly where it leaked from but according to the customer from the fittings itself.

I will need to speak to the customer first about re install the plastic to copper but it will cost them too much. She already moant about hourly rate charge.

Would you rather take male iron to copper or to push fit ?

I am going to take the male irons out and will use loctite later on. But do not like the grey push fittings.

i think they do not want me to re install everything but asking me about certificates and insurances etc so they are calmed down after receiving my documents and certificates.

They just do not want a cowboy that's what they said. To me it doesn't look really cowboy just quick and fast installation that's all.

 

[Old Account]

Phil
Thank you for your help too.

Does lsx help at all ? Never used it and I'll never try using this stuff just wondering if it helps at all

 

[ShaunCorbs]

if they dont want to change it just use male irons in push fit, think they grey stuff is poly plumb (cheap) if you can try and use something like jg or hep

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Phil
Thank you for your help too.

Does lsx help at all ? Never used it and I'll never try using this stuff just wondering if it helps at all

and think there ptfe on the male threads i would use locktight 577 if you could

 

[Best]

...So the previous guy does that mess and does joints that leak and flood their home, - and they are going to check YOU out and YOUR insurance and proof of YOUR qualifications!
What a joke. Horse has bolted long ago with that one.

 

[Phil]

If they had a big flood, I'd say one of those Lego elbows had come apart, a poorly fitted male iron would just weep.

 

[Best]

Ptfe tape is perfect for male threads if you do it right. But if the shower valve has only 2 or 3 threads then it is harder to seal.
Male fitting with a shoulder at end of threads give a good seal if they lock up against the valve body.
I would also use some V2 JetLube - it acts as a lubricant on male threads (more tape goes in threads) and also helps seal.
I would rip that all out and start again as it is only a few pipes.

 

[rpm]

Top pipe on right hand side has separated from the valve.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Top pipe on right hand side has separated from the valve.

think they cut and capped the pipes mate as right top and bottom are capped and left top and bottom are as well

 

[Geyser]

Top pipe on right hand side has separated from the valve.

They have all been capped off

 

[rpm]

Should of gone to specsavers.

 

[rpm]

think they cut and capped the pipes mate as right top and bottom are capped and left top and bottom are as well

Which begs the question why would they do this and do they know exactly what & where the leak was?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Which begs the question why would they do this and do they know exactly what & where the leak was?

or they were scrambling and just in cap everything off

 

[rpm]

or they were scrambling and just in cap everything off

Or emergency plumber just smashed the wall then cut and capped to make safe.

 

[plumben]

I'd Be very careful if you have gave them your insurance details already, take pictures of everything before and after,

 

[Old Account]

and think there ptfe on the male threads i would use locktight 577 if you could

I do not use ptfe / very rarely, most of the time loctite

 

[Old Account]

I'd Be very careful if you have gave them your insurance details already, take pictures of everything before and after,

That's a good one I have got all on my email address so already backed up a little.

I really do not where leak was will find out tomorrow morning. But apparently some joints were leaking ... She wants me to re install and check with her together before I leave.

She also mentioned in case something will happen in the future she can hunt me down in case I've done something wrong.

A little weird to be behaviour isn't it. Or is that normal when you had a flut in your house and the previous plumber was apparently a cowboy ?

Do not think he was a real cowboy though.

Will see if she wants me to do all new as she already moant about the costs as she asked me about the hourly costs.

 

[Old Account]

Thank you all for your advise , I really appreciate it !

 

[Best]

For one little insignificant job you are being asked very unfairly for too much detail about yourself.
Your insurance details are your private business and it should suffice that you give a domestic house owner customer just the bare details of your insurance cover. They should not get what it cost you or name of insurance company.
Just because the potential customer has been foolish to get a poor job done and were traumatised by the experience doesn't mean you should be grilled like a criminal for what? Half a days wages? I would walk away.
Look at it this way, - The customer has been checking you out and all your papers etc, - but are you able to check her out? Are you certain she will be decent, kind, honest, not try to fraud you, pay you and fully at end of job? Where's her paperwork and references?

 

[Old Account]

For one little insignificant job you are being asked very unfairly for too much detail about yourself.
Your insurance details are your private business and it should suffice that you give a domestic house owner customer just the bare details of your insurance cover. They should not get what it cost you or name of insurance company.
Just because the potential customer has been foolish to get a poor job done and were traumatised by the experience doesn't mean you should be grilled like a criminal for what? Half a days wages? I would walk away.

You are quite right, I just thought it would be helpful to calm them a little down , now I am a little fool

Anyway, they want me to do re grouting bathroom floor, 2nd bathroom re sealing the bath,
Re install the pipework and check that after reconnecting no leaks appear.

But moaning when it comes to asking me What's my hourly rate.

What would you charge for such a job as listed above ?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

dont do the re grouting of the floor, if the grouting is cracking / moving theres something wrong underneath esp if its upstairs

 

[Old Account]

dont do the re grouting of the floor, if the grouting is cracking / moving theres something wrong underneath esp if its upstairs

Good that you mention it, I'm not going to do it then they might forgot to put the anti crack Matt in dura base ... Thanks shaun