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Sorry 3 days for a heat only changeover that’s ridiculous, 4 hours is possible depending size £500 for less than a days work then I wouldn’t be in a rush
Filter on flow isn’t a problem, not efficient allows contamination through boiler before collection but acceptable in manufacturer instructions
Pump definitely in wrong position and wrong direction
Why fit a drain point above boiler when it’s already built in (not relevant but questions knowledge of boiler)
What size ri is fitted and how many rads as boiler could be too powerful, what boiler was removed
Is Automatic bypass correctly fitted
List could be endless
 
Dake205 said:
Sorry 3 days for a heat only changeover that’s ridiculous, 4 hours is possible depending size £500 for less than a days work then I wouldn’t be in a rush
Filter on flow isn’t a problem, not efficient allows contamination through boiler before collection but acceptable in manufacturer instructions
Pump definitely in wrong position and wrong direction
Why fit a drain point above boiler when it’s already built in (not relevant but questions knowledge of boiler)
What size ri is fitted and how many rads as boiler could be too powerful, what boiler was removed
Is Automatic bypass correctly fitted
List could be endless
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4 hours including a flush no way
 
I’ve never done the schemes but I guarantee they will at least supply just a cleaner and inhibitor, magnaclean will not be mentioned or chargeable if wanted, now what does manufacturers describe as a flush, drain system, cold flush then hot flush with chemicals, drain and add inhibitor they don’t specify magnaclean so as much as you don’t like it and it’s not my personal preference, I think you can now agree it can be done
 
Dake205 said:
I’ve never done the schemes but I guarantee they will at least supply just a cleaner and inhibitor, magnaclean will not be mentioned or chargeable if wanted, now what does manufacturers describe as a flush, drain system, cold flush then hot flush with chemicals, drain and add inhibitor they don’t specify magnaclean so as much as you don’t like it and it’s not my personal preference, I think you can now agree it can be done
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they will say the water td quality
 
Yip but still not required as part of install, as stated it’s personal preference and cost associated, I agree with you but the instructions will advise minimum requirements which I’ve stated and I feel at that point installers can’t be held liable, so if that’s what they advise and if that’s what’s carried out under these schemes then why should installers be held liable, unfortunately it’s simple you get what you pay for, and at £500 a day I’d happily put magnacleanse on a regular swap
 
Dake205 said:
Yip but still not required as part of install, as stated it’s personal preference and cost associated, I agree with you but the instructions will advise minimum requirements which I’ve stated and I feel at that point installers can’t be held liable, so if that’s what they advise and if that’s what’s carried out under these schemes then why should installers be held liable, unfortunately it’s simple you get what you pay for, and at £500 a day I’d happily put magnacleanse on a regular swap
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wrong is part of the install as these warranties are void without it also inbh

also needs servicing every year
 
Dake205 said:
Yip but still not required as part of install, as stated it’s personal preference and cost associated, I agree with you but the instructions will advise minimum requirements which I’ve stated and I feel at that point installers can’t be held liable, so if that’s what they advise and if that’s what’s carried out under these schemes then why should installers be held liable, unfortunately it’s simple you get what you pay for, and at £500 a day I’d happily put magnacleanse on a regular swap
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Are you Gas safe registered?
As it sounds like you are not.
 
I am gsr, clearly you can tell that lol if you have doubts ask me anything, so at what point of an install mentions magnacleanse as minimum and what associations does cleaning have to do with gas safe, water quality is the first test they’ll do as they know older systems will fail with minimum cleaning requirements meaning they can void warranty, define servicing lol
 
Dake205 said:
I am gsr, clearly you can tell that lol if you have doubts ask me anything, so at what point of an install mentions magnacleanse as minimum and what associations does cleaning have to do with gas safe, water quality is the first test they’ll do as they know older systems will fail with minimum cleaning requirements meaning they can void warranty, define servicing lol
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No point of install recommends a magnacleanse as a minimum. But all boilers state the system should be cleansed in accordance with bs7593 and any system not cleansed to bs7593 shall void the warranty. If you read bs7593 you shall see that as a minimum you shall use a appropriate cleaner for the reccomended amount of time which is usually an hour, then drain down and refil a minimum of 3 times. Or you could as Shaun says, use chemicals and magnacleanse which will no doubt do the same job but probably a little quicker.
Do you still believe that you can swap a heat only boiler in 4 hours and still comply with the manufactures instructions and not void the warranty?
 
Dake205 said:
I am gsr, clearly you can tell that lol if you have doubts ask me anything, so at what point of an install mentions magnacleanse as minimum and what associations does cleaning have to do with gas safe, water quality is the first test they’ll do as they know older systems will fail with minimum cleaning requirements meaning they can void warranty, define servicing lol
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So have you sent us your gas safe details?
 
Dake205 said:
I am gsr, clearly you can tell that lol if you have doubts ask me anything, so at what point of an install mentions magnacleanse as minimum and what associations does cleaning have to do with gas safe, water quality is the first test they’ll do as they know older systems will fail with minimum cleaning requirements meaning they can void warranty, define servicing lol
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If you are GS then please provide your details as asked repeatedly
 
Dake205 said:
I am gsr, clearly you can tell that lol if you have doubts ask me anything, so at what point of an install mentions magnacleanse as minimum and what associations does cleaning have to do with gas safe, water quality is the first test they’ll do as they know older systems will fail with minimum cleaning requirements meaning they can void warranty, define servicing lol
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Also we cannot tell as you do not have the GSR badge next to your name.
 
Just a quick update and big thank you to all who have replied to my post.
The engineer called back and made some alterations and the boiler seems fine now.
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Yes, the main problem was the flow and return pipes where wrong, you can see the flow now goes to the pump. The filter is now on the return pipe to the boiler.
Also a bypass as been fitted.
 
Have you got a pic of your airing cupboard, you may not need a bypass depending on setup. If you do require it though it will need moving.
 
I've had a look and I believe its a three position valve (y plan?) so would this be ok? I am assuming if no demand for heat or water then the valve is in the middle and so there is a path back to the boiler in case of frost protection coming on?
 
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