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I'm currently working for a small firm as a plumber. I've got NVQ LEVEL 2 6189-21. I really want to progress on to my gas safe training but my boss doesn't want to pay the extra wages. I'm in Birmingham and I drive own hand tools. I'm hard working and honest but don't want to work for peanuts.
 
Problem you face is a common one, you see the yellow badge as the holy grail and you believe that once you've got it you deserve more peanuts. Truth is you won't really be an asset until you've been working in gas for a year or two. And the tickets will cost your employer £5k ish. But once your gassed up you will be demanding more or threatening to walk ..... Boss will just watch all his hard work walk . I see it a lot. But I'm qualified...... That don't mean jack son!
 
Problem you face is a common one, you see the yellow badge as the holy grail and you believe that once you've got it you deserve more peanuts. Truth is you won't really be an asset until you've been working in gas for a year or two. And the tickets will cost your employer £5k ish. But once your gassed up you will be demanding more or threatening to walk ..... Boss will just watch all his hard work walk . I see it a lot. But I'm qualified...... That don't mean jack son!

Well said Ermy, to the OP. What exactly do you think your worth?
 
More than £50 a day. Seems to me like most trades, you all think it's only you who deserve the £150 a day but no one else. Like in all walks of life everybody learns at a different pace. I do everything that is required in my job that is supposed to be a skilled trade, for less than a labourers wage. Why do I need 2 years gas experience to be paid a decent amount if I already do the job? I'm not blinded by the badge, but if I can't legally work on gas without supervision then obviously it is required.
 
It's all dependant on how fast you are and the quality of your work. You may or may not deserve £150 a day. FYI, I get more than £150 a day. And the reason we think we deserve more, is because most of us on here are self employed.
If I was going to pay someone £150 a day they'd have to be gsr, because of the type of work I do. You'd also have to be able to complete full heating systems and boiler upgrades, with only needing help with vertical flues and the lifting of existing cast iron boilers.
 
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More than £50 a day. Seems to me like most trades, you all think it's only you who deserve the £150 a day but no one else. Like in all walks of life everybody learns at a different pace. I do everything that is required in my job that is supposed to be a skilled trade, for less than a labourers wage. Why do I need 2 years gas experience to be paid a decent amount if I already do the job? I'm not blinded by the badge, but if I can't legally work on gas without supervision then obviously it is required.

From what you have said you just won't to progress within the industry and I hope you find some one who sees potential in you.Then it is down to you to prove yourself and if you do you will have a good career.but just remember what ever stage you are in your career you will not now every thing now or in the future.The industry can be very varied.As for qualifications it's all a must now but to be honest when I was a apprentice half the people that trained me had no qualifications but they where some of the best skilled workers i have come across.
But also there are plenty of yellow badge holders out there now that have qualifications coming out they ears and we all come across work that has been done to a poor standard all the time.
When you do get the opportunity to train within the gas industry.
Be confident in what you know now.
Always ask when you don't know something it's the best way to learn (most don't ask)
As for the money side of things ninety nine per cent of us work to live and what your worth is what people are willing to pay you at the time be it employer or customer.
 
From what you have said you just won't to progress within the industry and I hope you find some one who sees potential in you.Then it is down to you to prove yourself and if you do you will have a good career.but just remember what ever stage you are in your career you will not now every thing now or in the future.The industry can be very varied.As for qualifications it's all a must now but to be honest when I was a apprentice half the people that trained me had no qualifications but they where some of the best skilled workers i have come across.
But also there are plenty of yellow badge holders out there now that have qualifications coming out they ears and we all come across work that has been done to a poor standard all the time.
When you do get the opportunity to train within the gas industry.
Be confident in what you know now.
Always ask when you don't know something it's the best way to learn (most don't ask)
As for the money side of things ninety nine per cent of us work to live and what your worth is what people are willing to pay you at the time be it employer or customer.

Thank you for your input, it's very much appreciated. As it happens the boss has said he will call round for an appropriate course for me.
 
Well that is nice to here I hope you get on the course do well and have a good working relationship with you boss we all need that next step.
Keep us informed how you get on.
 
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