Becoming 'Gas Safe'

[SHall]

Hi Everyone

I am currently training as a Plumbing and Heating Engineer and when I'm qualified I want to go self employed and start my own business etc.
I also want to be Gas Safe registered so I can offer Boiler services/installs etc.

My question is, do I have to complete the NVQ I'm doing at the moment BEFORE I go down the Gas route, & what is involved in becoming Gas Safe registered?

Thanks

 

[kay-jay]

Hi Everyone

& what is involved in becoming Gas Safe registered?

Thanks

A large financial outlay mainly
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[Barry98]

bending over and touching your toes

 

[SHall]

bending over and touching your toes

lol cheer fellas

 

[kay-jay]

nvq isn't mandatory, but the level 3 c and g course which leads to the nvq is a good introduction to gas and unventeds. without it you will struggle.
also find a local guy to shadow cos these courses only teach you basics and how to be safe with gas, not actually how to do the job.....this comes only with on the job experience

good luck

 

[SHall]

Hmm seems as tho it will benefit to be patient and tackle one thing at a time.

I am under the impression that NCS who is the company I am training through will offer the gas cert by April 2013 so it is likely I will do it through them.

Can you estimate what I could expect to pay? Am I right in thinking it is circa £1500?

 

[jtsplumbing]

Well want to be self employed ! by the time you have your gas safe number their may be enough work around to warrant all the expence and time need'd to get on the ladder, better to do the gas training and get a job working for someone being self employed now is just money down the drain , Its not all shiney van's and designer work wear, its long Hrs no holidays for years and woundering were the next job is comeing from, sorry to be so down on it , but been in this game since the 70's (3 day week) but nothing as bad as it is now, Get a job with someone and think about in 10 years time, better you know the truth of how thing's are than paint you a gloss'y picture, But best of luck.

 

[jtsplumbing]

What do you mean by gas cert, ? you'll need ACS qual's proff of working on gas, think it's £400.00 for application form from GS (no refund) if turned down. £1500.00 think more in the line of £5000.00

 

[gavinwilson]

need to work along side someone to build up a portfolio of gas jobs

 

[plumbdoctor]

dont run before you can walk its tough out there at the moment pal

 

[chris watkins]

Have a look at this link http://www.intaplumb.co.uk/Categories.pdf
It shows what will be required to allow you to take the ACS (CCN1) at any ACS testing centre)
With an NVQ you will be category 2 without it category 3 with either you will have to show around 70 days of on-site training i.e. work.
I agree do the L3 C&G you need a lot of off site training as well to pass this.

 

[mountainman]

Hiya
Just to throw my pennyworth in, it's not cheap or easy to become GSR, but becoming competent is so much more difficult.

 

[SHall]

Well want to be self employed ! by the time you have your gas safe number their may be enough work around to warrant all the expence and time need'd to get on the ladder, better to do the gas training and get a job working for someone being self employed now is just money down the drain , Its not all shiney van's and designer work wear, its long Hrs no holidays for years and woundering were the next job is comeing from, sorry to be so down on it , but been in this game since the 70's (3 day week) but nothing as bad as it is now, Get a job with someone and think about in 10 years time, better you know the truth of how thing's are than paint you a gloss'y picture, But best of luck.

Hmm this is the first negative I've had, but perhaps you're right. After all you've been in the game a long time. However being self employed is an ambition but it isnt a necessity. My plan really was just to see what the market is like once I'm all qualified. Im thinking about getting myself set up then trying to get some sub contracts etc.

What do you mean by gas cert, ? you'll need ACS qual's proff of working on gas, think it's £400.00 for application form from GS (no refund) if turned down. £1500.00 think more in the line of £5000.00

I don't really understand what you mean, do you mean proof of working on gas? & what is more in the line of £5000.00? sorry...

need to work along side someone to build up a portfolio of gas jobs

A friend of mine is a gas engineer, he works for his dad's firm who is happy to let me work along side them to build a portfolio so that shouldnt be a problem, but i thought it was just 2 installs GS has to monitor?

dont run before you can walk its tough out there at the moment pal

yeah i think my enthusiasm might be getting the better of me, perhaps it is better to focus on 1 thing at a time

Have a look at this link http://www.intaplumb.co.uk/Categories.pdf
It shows what will be required to allow you to take the ACS (CCN1) at any ACS testing centre)
With an NVQ you will be category 2 without it category 3 with either you will have to show around 70 days of on-site training i.e. work.
I agree do the L3 C&G you need a lot of off site training as well to pass this.

This is helpful thanks just one question when you say L3 C&G do you mean in Gas? or P+H?

Hiya
Just to throw my pennyworth in, it's not cheap or easy to become GSR, but becoming competent is so much more difficult.

I have heard this yeah, but we've all got to start somewhere i suppose

 

[chris watkins]

Hi
I took it from your first post that you were doing L2 C&G 6129 Tech cert & 6089 NVQ if this is the case I was suggesting that you carried on to the L3 of both of these. You should get a good grounding in the gas side (depending on what centre / college you go to) this will provide you with the bulk of the off the job training you will need. It should also allow you to take the CCN1 as part of the course.
First things first you must pass Level 2 to be able to go onto L3 & pass all of the L3 to get on to the CCN1.

 

[jtsplumbing]

Thought you were asking about the cost of the course (£1500.00) if you read some of the threads on here some of the costs are upwards of £7000.00, then on top of this you will have start up costs, Tools , van, insurance, the list go's on

 

[mountainman]

Hmm this is the first negative I've had, but perhaps you're right. After all you've been in the game a long time. However being self employed is an ambition but it isnt a necessity. My plan really was just to see what the market is like once I'm all qualified. Im thinking about getting myself set up then trying to get some sub contracts etc.



I don't really understand what you mean, do you mean proof of working on gas? & what is more in the line of £5000.00? sorry...



A friend of mine is a gas engineer, he works for his dad's firm who is happy to let me work along side them to build a portfolio so that shouldnt be a problem, but i thought it was just 2 installs GS has to monitor?



yeah i think my enthusiasm might be getting the better of me, perhaps it is better to focus on 1 thing at a time



This is helpful thanks just one question when you say L3 C&G do you mean in Gas? or P+H?



I have heard this yeah, but we've all got to start somewhere i suppose

I agree with you but I'm only telling it like it is.

I think those of us who entered the trade in the 70's & 80's were fortunate in having apprenticeships, excellent training and most importantly day to day interaction with older more experienced engineers.

 

[SHall]

Hi
I took it from your first post that you were doing L2 C&G 6129 Tech cert & 6089 NVQ if this is the case I was suggesting that you carried on to the L3 of both of these. You should get a good grounding in the gas side (depending on what centre / college you go to) this will provide you with the bulk of the off the job training you will need. It should also allow you to take the CCN1 as part of the course.
First things first you must pass Level 2 to be able to go onto L3 & pass all of the L3 to get on to the CCN1.

Oh I see yeah that makes sense thanks

Thought you were asking about the cost of the course (£1500.00) if you read some of the threads on here some of the costs are upwards of £7000.00, then on top of this you will have start up costs, Tools , van, insurance, the list go's on

Oh yeah I see. Yeah the course I am doing is costing £6250 in total. Like you say, plus the rest!!

 

[SHall]

I agree with you but I'm only telling it like it is.

I think those of us who entered the trade in the 70's & 80's were fortunate in having apprenticeships, excellent training and most importantly day to day interaction with older more experienced engineers.

Yeah, to be honest I wanted to do a plumbing apprenticeship 4 years a go when I was 16 but I ended up doing A levels. Had i done it then I'd be qualified by now and have a lot more experience. But, we are where we are. Just got to keep positive, & take all the experience offered to me

 

[gavinwilson]

i know you have to build up a portfolio of jobs which ur gs engineer has to sign varies from centre to centre on how many "hours" you have to put in but they want all aspects of the job gas fires tightness test etc then to become gas safe they visit you on the job

 

[galaxy_plumbing]

i paid £2900 for ACS, £440 gas safe reg, £740 analyzer, plus additional £450 for cookers and gas fires maybe. not counting additional training with manufacturers and unvented, plus tools etc so don't rush into become self-employed.

 

[mountainman]

i paid £2900 for ACS, £440 gas safe reg, £740 analyzer, plus additional £450 for cookers and gas fires maybe. not counting additional training with manufacturers and unvented, plus tools etc so don't rush into become self-employed.

But of course this is chickenfeed compared to the 40 to 50k a year you earn.

 

[Barry98]

But of course this is chickenfeed compared to the 40 to 50k a year you earn.

thats after tax

 

[galaxy_plumbing]

hehe, at least somebody put a smile on my face.

 

[Barry98]

im here all week THANK YOU

 

[jtsplumbing]

Are you earning enough to pay Tax ??