british gas external cladding and flue

[buckley plumb]

seen this today seeing more and more what would others class this as

 

[buckley plumb]

the external gas pipe has also been covered in the passage way

 

[GasmanxxxR1]

class it as lazy, they could have put a longer flue in when they did the cladding

 

[bigads28]

The flue is ok, they are done like that all over the country. If you wanted to be fussy the worst would be NCS.

Gas pipe buried in insulation on the other hand...hmmmm... I'd drop Gas Safe an email and get their take on it it would be interesting to see what they say, after all it's only in recent time that masses of this stuff is being fitted. I can see it being AR. Thats one heck of an area for gas to gather between the wall and insulation.

 

[buckley plumb]

The flue is ok, they are done like that all over the country. If you wanted to be fussy the worst would be NCS.

Gas pipe buried in insulation on the other hand...hmmmm... I'd drop Gas Safe an email and get their take on it it would be interesting to see what they say, after all it's only in recent time that masses of this stuff is being fitted. I can see it being AR. Thats one heck of an area for gas to gather between the wall and insulation.

never realised you could email them will look for web site

 

[bigads28]

I think they also have a technical help line now, they might be able to help you. I canna find the number though. That's the kind of situation where you can get the answer from the horses mouth. Nothing in the regs covers it that I can think of.

 

[jtsplumbing]

You will get same old answer off them when they wont commit to a direct reply ! (Sorry its a bit of a grey area)

 

[IDCHAPPY]

They must work to the minimum clearances of the boiler you'd image for the flue bit, still looks gash though.
Surely the gas pipe would be run in an unventilated void?

 

[zeebeedee]

Ha! Good luck getting gas safe to commit to anything in writing!!!!!!

 

[lame plumber]

just gonna be another house that sweats itself to death now

 

[dancinplumba]

The flue is ok, they are done like that all over the country. If you wanted to be fussy the worst would be NCS.

Gas pipe buried in insulation on the other hand...hmmmm... I'd drop Gas Safe an email and get their take on it it would be interesting to see what they say, after all it's only in recent time that masses of this stuff is being fitted. I can see it being AR. Thats one heck of an area for gas to gather between the wall and insulation.

There is no gap between insulation and wall its stuck to it. Would suggest protecting pipe if in contact with insulation

 

[jtsplumbing]

Doing loads of this around Plymouth, they had damp problems with cavity insulation, so they had to remove all old insulation and do this cladding, only time will tell what problems it will cause, must be quite expensive to do , BG dong it using all foreign labour

 

[AWheating]

the flue is not ntc, the person/company who did the cladding must work to the gas regulations which includes clearances and manufacturers requirements.

either you have to adhere to the bs/ MI or get written permission from the manufacturer to do this window thing.
its just lazy/ money saving and breaks the law.

 

[moogwai]

my old dear is looking at getting cladding on her park home....the cladding company wanted £180 just to renew her flue pipe!!! told them i'll do it!! but yeah flue on that pic looks fine due to the clearences....the gas pipe buried the cladding surely must be ar......one hell of a boom if that leaks

 

[buckley plumb]

emailed pic to glowworm as its an ultracom 2 - they said if flue is like this they want 300mm clearance and the top at an angle to stop water dripping into flue - they say they have seen a lot of this and may make a note in the manual

 

[AWheating]

thats normally what ive seen done.

Ive done some work on cladding jobs and normally you have to make the window with sloped sides after 300mm(or the to MI as required) from the flue so normally the window is 700mm square then slow gradiant out to new cladding. the slope is to keep normal air flow across the flue terminal as needed.

normally in the past the energy company funding the cladding will cover the cost of a boiler upgrade for tennants/ home owners in fuel poverty when the boiler flue is not available.