Burner

[Old Account]

I was wondering what sort of burners are you using in UK mostly

- yellow burner
or
- blue flame burner with re circulation to achieve better results of burning fuel.

recirculation of combustion gases are nothing else than using the mix with preheated incoming combustion air to burn more efficient .


As ive only seen and worked once on a oil fuel burner in UK I was curious what sort of burner you use on country sides ?

 

[TFGplumbing]

Yellow flame for domestic normally

 

[Old Account]

Yellow flame for domestic normally

Why yellow flame ? Isn't it better and more efficient with blue flame ?

 

[lame plumber]

Why yellow flame ? Isn't it better and more efficient with blue flame ?

yep

 

[Benjamin Bai]

In my opinion, blue flame burner is better than yellow flame burner.

 

[lame plumber]

In my opinion, blue flame burner is better than yellow flame burner.

having seen your opinion on boiler/heating repairs ................................

 

[Old Account]

In my opinion, blue flame burner is better than yellow flame burner.

Surely it's better therefore I'm asking why they install most of the time yellow burners ?

 

[Roger Welton]

2018 (IIRC) is the change over to blue flame on new boilers

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[SimonG]

Not familiar with blue flame burners. Are they the ones on the Viessmans?

Must be a lot more expensive?

 

[Roger Welton]

Not come across a viesmann oil boiler.

I think the bigest issue with the blue flame burners is the length of the blast tube needed, and the lack of space in the combustion chambers of our current boilers.

 

[Old Account]

Not come across a viesmann oil boiler.

I think the bigest issue with the blue flame burners is the length of the blast tube needed, and the lack of space in the combustion chambers of our current boilers.

Therefore you get those better boilers like viessmann, buderus, weisshaupt, Junkers ...

 

[Roger Welton]

They will no doubt redesign when required, the problem in the UK is that we don't have dedicated plant rooms (except in a small minority of cases) and most boilers are under kitchen worktops so the footprint is limited by this.

 

[lame plumber]

not sure, but I think firebird are introducing a blue flame series shortly

 

[sgamar]

for domestic Yellow flame

 

[jensda]

not sure, but I think firebird are introducing a blue flame series shortly

your correct lp they have it ready for launch not sure but have been told price is double the enviromax

 

[Old Account]

Not come across a viesmann oil boiler.

I think the bigest issue with the blue flame burners is the length of the blast tube needed, and the lack of space in the combustion chambers of our current boilers.

You are quite right I recon, as we have most of the time our boiler loctaed in the basements unless you got feed by the county like industrial.

The boiler are slightly bigger coz of their blast tube but not massively.
Sometimes we needed to carry the boiler in parts down into the basements as it was just to heavy to carry them down into the basement / or it was just to tight. I remember sometimes we had to carry a boiler with 4 ppl so heavy they were.

But we have got also a special trolley to connect the boiler onto it and pushing it down into the basement.

Have you got also steam boilers which are huge as hell ? 1500kw and more ?

The service takes a lot of time as you can literally stay inside the boiler. Noszzels big like 4.5 if not bigger.

We still have boilers they are from mid 80s but working still fine.
Also too the fuel tank are located either in basement or outside next to the building.

For me it was a pleasure to work on boilers it's a little stinky but still made fun to work on them.

 

[Roger Welton]

your correct lp they have it ready for launch not sure but have been told price is double the enviromax

I'd heard £1800ish, a mate went on the course, from what he described it sounded like a nuway burner though that is pure hear say

 

[Old Account]

I'd heard £1800ish, a mate went on the course, from what he described it sounded like a nuway burner though that is pure hear say

It's just a copy of riello burner of Germany !!! Nothing new at all old as hell