I have had a up and down year, when im busy on a bathroom refits I am turning down small jobs, then when im quiet i could do with the small jobs, as for the industry picking up, thats rubbish, local Grahams has gone, also Q bathrooms gone and Plumbase who I use a lot are downsizing staff, so it's not good, having said that I have been ticking over so nothing yet to get to worried about. I think next year things will really pick up as we must have bottomed out now. Good luck to all for the future.