Commercial property domestic boiler

[Thoggy]

Hi all
been to look at a boiler today combi serving 7 rads in offices and sink, the boiler is a glowworm 38cxi, it is leaking from everywhere when I said where's the meter it is all fed from the steel pipe work that runs to the ovens, it's a bakery. I had a look at it think it needs replacing I told them I can't touch it as it doesn't have a seperate meter so I can't tightness test or gas rate etc. I advised to either get a separate meter installed if this is possible and then I could do the work if I checked was ok with gas safe or ring a commercial firm up to do it. Am I right?

 

[buckley plumb]

i tried to get advise on this and had mixed results the steel pipework where i was had an isolator valve and testpoint and i was told i could just soundness test my pipework and connect to the point but there is no way of gas rating .a secondry meter would be a good idea any commercial guys got any thoughts on this ?

 

[Thoggy]

I don't want to turn any work down but also don't want to cross any lines.

 

[buckley plumb]

i phoned gas safe twice and got different answers so just listened to the one i wanted to hear - i did the job of mine which is same as you have got to do but still not sure if i did right or wrong.

 

[Destroyer2813]

Wheres Croppie bragging he's. Commercial when you want him

 

[ambrosia]

as i understand it, if you can isolate the section of pipework you are working on down to within domestic sizes youre okay,
but it does demonstrate a hole in the regs because gas rating on a commercial meter is different to a domestic one

 

[buckley plumb]

as i understand it, if you can isolate the section of pipework you are working on down to within domestic sizes youre okay,
but it does demonstrate a hole in the regs because gas rating on a commercial meter is different to a domestic one

thats what i was told .

 

[buckley plumb]

Wheres Croppie bragging he's. Commercial when you want him

too busy policing the other gas section lol

 

[Thoggy]

So if I did a boiler swap how would I go about the usual normal domestic procedure?

 

[ambrosia]

the problem with calling gsr is you always get someone really patronizing and condencending, the quality of the information doesnt seem that good and the way they insist on taking your gas safe registration makes you feel like theyre making a file on you, if you have to call them more than 3 times in a year you'll get an inspection

when i have to ring up i always give whn1 gas safe number

 

[Dotty]

oooooooooo that's an awkward one!

What size pipework / total volume?

To be honest I would have viewed it as a commercial installation despite the boiler being a domestic one.

 

[Thoggy]

Mate no idea it's running these massive ovens baking biscuits and cakes and it goes to smaller steel then 22mm copper in the boiler area, I think I'll leave it but wanted some opinions as its work, typical really but don't think me public liability would cover 100000000 custard creams. Cheers croppie

 

[Barry98]

The Steel pipe don't make no difference , the answer is what meter is in

 

[Thoggy]

The meter was behind some exterior doors like a maintenance room at a school, it would of been a beast but they couldn't find the key so I said either get a second meter put in or get a com firm out.

 

[Barry98]

Ill come down and go 50/50

 

[Thoggy]

But whilst we're on the subject I went to a Chinese restaurant to look at a plumbing job they just had a normal domestic meter but had massive burner hobs for torching all the fast food is this classed as commercial? 28mm pipe work. I have range cookers is that the same?

 

[Thoggy]

Where do you live? They might have rang this firm in, they said they'd tried them first but they couldn't get to look til Monday so rang muggins up.

 

[ambrosia]

But whilst we're on the subject I went to a Chinese restaurant to look at a plumbing job they just had a normal domestic meter but had massive burner hobs for torching all the fast food is this classed as commercial? 28mm pipe work. I have range cookers is that the same?

how many hobs, are we talking combined over 60kw, that not going to work on a u6 meter

thats a thanks but no thanks run away job

 

[Thoggy]

Didn't check mate it just stuck in my mind and never asked any ones opinion yeah those run like mad jobs are becoming a regular occurrence for me either tosser customers or jobs I'm not 100% on.

 

[Mike Jackson]

But whilst we're on the subject I went to a Chinese restaurant to look at a plumbing job they just had a normal domestic meter but had massive burner hobs for torching all the fast food is this classed as commercial? 28mm pipe work. I have range cookers is that the same?

Regardless of meter I would say that you need Comcat for this one. Range cookers is not the same.