Complete novice needs help.

[nondeplumb]

I think I initially posted this in the wrong place,so I am adding it here. I hope someone can help



Hey all

I know this kind of post has probs bin posted before, but I am at my wits end. My landlord is abroad, and with Covid I'm trying to sort out something before the expense of a plumber.

So I am hoping someone will be kind enough to give me some advice.

Basically my kitchen sink has been blocked, water not going down. So I tried plunger, One Shot type liquid, even bicarbonate of soda with vinegar. No luck.

And here is where my problems really began.

You probably know where I'm going but I googled it, found lots of sites saying 'before you use a plumber...'
All advising me to unscrew the u bend, (sorry if my terminology is wrong) clean out any sludge, screw it all back in. I did all of that.

The problem is, that when I put it all back together, and turn tap on, the pipe which is supposed to fit snugly onto the pipe which carries the water out, no longer fits snuggly, and so water gushes out of there.


There was no leaking prior to me undoing it all. This, logically tells me that I am not pushing the pipe into the main one properly, or I'm missing a vital component (ie upon taking it apart I've lost something)

Its not that it doesn't fit at all, its just when I push it to fit, it fits but sort of hangs,unlike say the other bits that have a tight washer

I have attached a photo of the pipe which carries the water out,and the end of the u bend pipe which no longer slots in so that it's watertight.

I am just wondering if I am missing something fundamental, or I could buy a fitting to make it fit tighter. I've bought heavy duty gaffer tape.

Any help is much appreciated. I have a bucket so its not like I can't use the sink at all.

Thanks all.


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[Donametchi]

I think I initially posted this in the wrong place,so I am adding it here. I hope someone can help



Hey all

I know this kind of post has probs bin posted before, but I am at my wits end. My landlord is abroad, and with Covid I'm trying to sort out something before the expense of a plumber.

So I am hoping someone will be kind enough to give me some advice.

Basically my kitchen sink has been blocked, water not going down. So I tried plunger, One Shot type liquid, even bicarbonate of soda with vinegar. No luck.

And here is where my problems really began.

You probably know where I'm going but I googled it, found lots of sites saying 'before you use a plumber...'
All advising me to unscrew the u bend, (sorry if my terminology is wrong) clean out any sludge, screw it all back in. I did all of that.

The problem is, that when I put it all back together, and turn tap on, the pipe which is supposed to fit snugly onto the pipe which carries the water out, no longer fits snuggly, and so water gushes out of there.


There was no leaking prior to me undoing it all. This, logically tells me that I am not pushing the pipe into the main one properly, or I'm missing a vital component (ie upon taking it apart I've lost something)

Its not that it doesn't fit at all, its just when I push it to fit, it fits but sort of hangs,unlike say the other bits that have a tight washer

I have attached a photo of the pipe which carries the water out,and the end of the u bend pipe which no longer slots in so that it's watertight.

I am just wondering if I am missing something fundamental, or I could buy a fitting to make it fit tighter. I've bought heavy duty gaffer tape.

Any help is much appreciated. I have a bucket so its not like I can't use the sink at all.

Thanks all.


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A good Mcalpine fitting would be what I,d be using.But I,m probably doing a local plumber out of Business.Basically If you want it sorted call a plumber.
What do you do for a living which pays your bills?

 

[nondeplumb]

Hi,thank you for taking the time to reply.

In answer to your question, my work is call centre based, or it was. I'm currently living week to week as I applied for universal credit. I know this is a job for a plumber. If I could afford one, trust me I would.
My landlord is not getting back to me. So here I am.

If I could ask, is this not already a Macadam fitting? (I know my first pics were not as clear).

And this other photo shows how tight the 45 degree angle is, so little room to maneuver once it is all screwed in.

Again, any help appreciated

 

[centralheatking]

I think I initially posted this in the wrong place,so I am adding it here. I hope someone can help



Hey all

I know this kind of post has probs bin posted before, but I am at my wits end. My landlord is abroad, and with Covid I'm trying to sort out something before the expense of a plumber.

So I am hoping someone will be kind enough to give me some advice.

Basically my kitchen sink has been blocked, water not going down. So I tried plunger, One Shot type liquid, even bicarbonate of soda with vinegar. No luck.

And here is where my problems really began.

You probably know where I'm going but I googled it, found lots of sites saying 'before you use a plumber...'
All advising me to unscrew the u bend, (sorry if my terminology is wrong) clean out any sludge, screw it all back in. I did all of that.

The problem is, that when I put it all back together, and turn tap on, the pipe which is supposed to fit snugly onto the pipe which carries the water out, no longer fits snuggly, and so water gushes out of there.


There was no leaking prior to me undoing it all. This, logically tells me that I am not pushing the pipe into the main one properly, or I'm missing a vital component (ie upon taking it apart I've lost something)

Its not that it doesn't fit at all, its just when I push it to fit, it fits but sort of hangs,unlike say the other bits that have a tight washer

I have attached a photo of the pipe which carries the water out,and the end of the u bend pipe which no longer slots in so that it's watertight.

I am just wondering if I am missing something fundamental, or I could buy a fitting to make it fit tighter. I've bought heavy duty gaffer tape.

Any help is much appreciated. I have a bucket so its not like I can't use the sink at all.

Thanks all.


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Take a picture of all the bits on the floor. I take it you have a plug hole which has a thread on it under the sink, then you will have a trap with a big white nut on the top which screws onto the thread under the sink. These traps can be s shaped or p shaped or bottle shaped. There will be some more nuts and some black rubber rings and red fibre washers about the same size....is this familiar
Centralheatking

 

[rpm]

Thinking that you are missing the black rubber cone washer.
Correct sequence should be nut on pipe followed by red or blue plastic backing washer then the rubber cone washer with smaller face facing the trap.
Insert pipe into the trap, push cone washer into trap then the plastic washer and nut tightens to compress rubber cone.

 

[nondeplumb]

Thank you for your reply. And for the person above (Been a while since I've used a forum)

I've had to Google but I see the black cone you talk of.

Unless I've absent mindedly thrown it out when I first unscrewed all of this, there wasn't one attached.

What is baffling me is that there was no leak, I unscrewed it because of a blockage. Upon reassembling it, it doesn't seal in the water .


Anyway as requested I have taken photo of,the set up all screwed in, and individual pipe and trapper.

You can see what was left of a rubber 'band'
From the front on it looks like there is another band in the groove around the pipe. However what that is, is grey gaffer tape which was evidently slotted in there by whoever has refitted this the last time.

Thinking that you are missing the black rubber cone washer.
Correct sequence should be nut on pipe followed by red or blue plastic backing washer then the rubber cone washer with smaller face facing the trap.
Insert pipe into the trap, push cone washer into trap then the plastic washer and nut tightens to compress rubber cone.

 

[king of pipes]

Rmp had explained it well , unscrew the nut from the trap slide it on the pipe through the wall next is either a blue or red ring , next is a black rubber joint ring these should be on the pipe through the wall slide the trap on the pipe and tighten onto the trap and the same onto the waste outlet best of luck . Kop

 

[WC1]

Suggest: YouTube "compression waste joint"