Condensate and safety relief problem!

[Ratters75]

Hi all, i have just installed a complete c/h system in my property and the combi went in the loft, to cut a long story short i need to know where to terminate the condensate pipe and how, also the safety relief pipe which is 15mm copper, where does that go i have no idea at all, all replies will be most welcome. thank you.

 

[stevetheplumber]

who is going to be the first to mention g** S***

 

[newbie1]

at the risk of sounding boring is the loft boarded and is there a guard rail around the loft hatch for starters,,its the regulations
i find it strange you have installed a full heating system but now ask about what are 2 of the most basic pipes to deal with
condensate and prv will be in the manufacturers instructions supplied with the boiler i assume you have taken the time to read them as regards gas supply and commissioning of the boiler checked working pressure and loss between meter and appliance,gas rated it correctly???

 

[Puddle]

all replies will be most welcome. thank you.

YOU SURE

 

[REDSAW]

my opinion???/.


if you have to ask those questions (unless your having a laugh) you aint qualified to install or even touch this gas appliance.
nor do you have the right to endanger other peoples lives trying to save yours
go and ******* shove it back into the place where ur brain should be.

if any member on this site instructs you of what to do, they too are equally liable.
nough said.

 

[smoggs03]

my opinion???/.


if you have to ask those questions (unless your having a laugh) you aint qualified to install or even touch this gas appliance.
nor do you have the right to endanger other peoples lives trying to save yours
go and ******* shove it back into the place where ur brain should be.

if any member on this site instructs you of what to do, they too are equally liable.
nough said.[/QUOTE

it dont seem fair for diyers to ask professionals how to do things on the cheap, surely it's detremental to trade!!!

 

[newbie1]

nothing wrong with giving advice as to what to expect when you get a quote
BUT this person could not in any way be perceived to be competent to work on a gas appliance
i doubt he worked out pipe size and potential pressure loss between meter and boiler or the working/burner pressure in mi the gas rating/tightness regulations for boilers in lofts,correct flueing
he quite obv hasnt even looked in the mi
another potentialy dangerous install
if orig poster comes on your house insurance will now be invalid as you are not even remotely classed as competent when it comes to gas install

 

[Ratters75]

Just to clarify, before you all start shagging yourselves, i didnt fit it my brother-in-law did and now he is in orlando, he said i can connect the condensate pipe and prv pipe it should be a doddle, so i READ the manual and being as i know nothing about plumbing am still unsure as to what the correct regs are and where to terminate (hence my question) the gas mains isnt even connected yet as im gonna get a gas safe engineer to do that and commission the system, and yes the loft is boarded and there is a loft ladder and lighting.
Like i said to cut a long story short!

Kind regards

 

[newbie1]

Hi all, i have just installed a complete c/h system in my property and the combi went in the loft, to cut a long story short i need to know where to terminate the condensate pipe and how, also the safety relief pipe which is 15mm copper, where does that go i have no idea at all, all replies will be most welcome. thank you.

original post HI ALL I HAVE JUST INSTALLED A COMPLETE CH SYSTEM now that means you not brother in law or joe bloggs your words indicate you have installed the system not someone has done some bits and now i am going to get someone to do half a job and sign it off
personaly i wouldnt touch anything someone else has done and then sign it off but hey ho thats just me
and if your brother in law knew what hes talking about the condensate is classed as part of the flue system
the manufacturers instructions do state quite clearly what to do with the condensate regards termination and also for the prv

 

[Ratters75]

Obviously not clearly enough or i would'nt be asking the question.
I'm trying to get as much done as i can to save money but without putting anyone in danger i'm not that stupid, i have a small family to think about, everything so far has gone well, all i wanted to know was where the condensate drain can go and the prv, the GAS SAFE engineer called round and said i could connect the condensate and prv, but he failed to mention how and where, then he said he would come round and connect the flue then the gas then commission the system, surely he wouldnt operate on a job if he had any worries.
And yes i got his details from the GAS SAFE register.

 

[newbie1]

well hes a chancer then as the condensate carries poc so is classified as part of the flue and a wrongly installed prv is dangerous not just to you but others understand you want to do it cheaply but read the mi its very very clear in there

 

[stevetheplumber]

reading this post got me thinking what is the correct procedure if the boiler is below
A below ground level
B below drainage level

 

[newbie1]

condensate pump wld need to be added

 

[smoggs03]

reading this post got me thinking what is the correct procedure if the boiler is below
A below ground level
B below drainage level

condensate pump and fit a 'blow off' remote from the boiler i.e in the loft the drainage one is a tricky one though it would have to have some safe guard against gasses/ and draining through into boiler i would think

 

[david williams]

not to put to much of a moan on this situation ,but this shows why we need legistration. so that no one but a duely tested examined and registerd competant person is used to fit all gas appliences .and no one else even if it is your own house.

 

[stevetheplumber]

condensate pump and fit a 'blow off' remote from the boiler i.e in the loft the drainage one is a tricky one though it would have to have some safe guard against gasses/ and draining through into boiler i would think

how can you fit a blow off it cant be fittrd remote from boiler as there are valves under the boiler which could be closed
ive previously run the bow outs up as my thinking is its preasured so will travel up
and when below drainage ive used a tun dish and run seperatly into the condense pump

 

[Ratters75]

not to put to much of a moan on this situation ,but this shows why we need legistration. so that no one but a duely tested examined and registerd competant person is used to fit all gas appliences .and no one else even if it is your own house.

I totally agree LEGISLATION is the way to go, if that were the case then maybe we should adhere to all those little warnings you see when you buy a new electrical APPLIANCE which clearly states when changing a plug, if in doubt ask a qualified electrician. But like myself i've done all i can and feel safe with, hence now i'm in doubt i am asking.

 

[stevetheplumber]

and if your brother in law knew what hes talking about the condensate is classed as part of the flue system

most manufacurers instructions will say some thing along the lines of only parts manfactured by us can be used on the flue system therefore if the condensate pipework is part of the flue system why dont they supply it
has plastic overflow been approved for the carriage of flue products ?
how about the washing machine trap is that approved ?

 

[Ratters75]

and if your brother in law knew what hes talking about the condensate is classed as part of the flue system

most manufacurers instructions will say some thing along the lines of only parts manfactured by us can be used on the flue system therefore if the condensate pipework is part of the flue system why dont they supply it
has plastic overflow been approved for the carriage of flue products ?
how about the washing machine trap is that approved ?

This could go on!!!

 

[obseen16]

Think you should have checked the regs matey, you definatley are not what i would deem to be competent in the slightest, nor registered by the sounds of it,

 

[radswilldo]

Your a bodger, its illegal, I hope its just you in the property.

 

[smoggs03]

how can you fit a blow off it cant be fittrd remote from boiler as there are valves under the boiler which could be closed
ive previously run the bow outs up as my thinking is its preasured so will travel up
and when below drainage ive used a tun dish and run seperatly into the condense pump

travel up!!! yeah and sit in pipe and freeze.....how do you stop methane coming out the drains???