Conflicting regulations and law

[Plouasne]

This Statuary Instrument appears to drive a coach and horses through the regulations for fitting an unvented hot water cylinder, with the exception of clause d, going by the Statuary Instrument, relevant clause listed below, it looks like I could install a continental style unvented hot water cylinder, without all the bells and whistles fitted on the UK cylinders

Requirements for water fittings etc.
4. - (1) Every water fitting shall-

(a) be of an appropriate quality and standard; and

(b) be suitable for the circumstances in which it is used.


(2) For the purposes of this regulation, a water fitting is of an appropriate quality or standard only if-

(a) it bears an appropriate CE marking in accordance with the Directive;

(b) it conforms to an appropriate harmonized standard or European technical approval;

(c) it conforms to an appropriate British Standard or some other national specification of an EEA State which provides an equivalent level of protection and performance; or

(d) it conforms to a specification approved by the regulator.

Your comments please gentlemen

 

[justlead1]

Hi I think i am right in saying that before unvented was made available to the masses is was available and used in commercail building via pump and break cistern. however the consequences would be the same if overheated. but such system had to be designed and underwritten by chartered engineers.

 

[MrSquirreltits]

Are women not allowed any input?

 

[Bernie2]

Interesting post Plouasne!

I wonder when UK and EU regs will eventually get together?

I remember somebody asking "Why where people now required to be CORGI registered for gas and licensed by the Home Officer for unvented, when electricity was just as dangerous?"

The answer was basically "Its only until the UK general public realize gas and unvented are dangerous!"

 

[Plouasne]

Bernie,

I might have been fortunate to have knocked about a bit, seen some of the world and its different styles of plumbing, and to me it seems like that every one is stuck in a kind of time warp, of my systems best attitude, if only people could learn from seeing what is best in other countries it would help to make plumbing a better trade

The EU has standardised on 230 voltage right across the EU, I have heard that ring mains are going, and its going to be radial circuits only, colours of cables is/has been standardised, which will be a help in future, my pet hate is the PME system, which if there is a break down or the conductors are transposed when renewing an electrical service can be down right dangerous, I also see that the zoning system in a bathroom is either in place or coming into place in the UK again a step forward in safety

Plumbing and gas fitting will take a few more years to get its act together, if I ever won the lottery mega Euros, I would like to see a bursary set up to enable plumbers who are just starting out on the tools, to be able to travel to other countries to study what other countries plumbing is like, and select the best bits and so enhance the general standard of plumbing, whilst I think that the French could teach the average UK plumber a thing or two with regards to water and gas, the average UK plumber could teach the French a thing or two about the sanitary side of plumbing, like AAAV's stuck on top of a soil stack on the outside wall, a first floor w/c connected by a bend to a vertical drop to the ground, without any form of vent, a second floor sink waste in 40mm plastic with an 8 metre drop from the sink without any form of venting, (god knows how much water is left in the trap seal, considering that all trap seals are only 50mm in the first place)
Average out in the sticks French plumbers motto, is if it glugs fit an AAAV that will cure it

 

[Plouasne]

Just to show how controversial I am

What is to stop me fitting one of these in the UK, exactly as per the diagram, it a mains fed hot water cylinder, with out the bells and whistles that a UK cylinder has, it has all the markings required by the UK statuary instrument, (CE, NF, EN) and so complies with the requirements

[DLMURL]http://www.atlantic-comfort.com/documents/technical%20sheet%20Combi%20MG.pdf[/DLMURL]

This was only one of the links that I found in English, the direct cylinder is just about the same

Found a direct cylinder instructions in English , after the French pages

[DLMURL]http://www.atlantic-comfort.com/documents/installation_manual_ACI.pdf[/DLMURL]