Cooker gas fitting half inch to quarter iron.

[salinia]

Just thought I would share this, I was asked to give my sister a lift to work this am on arrival I said I can smell gas. She said open that cupboard next to the cooker I think it smells of gas in there. I did it stank of gas, I pulled the cooker out gave it the bubble test it seemed to be leaking from the fitting on the back of the cooker I remade the joint tested again still leaking...on closer inspection I determined the leak was actually coming out of the side of the fitting..it was porous! first time I have ever come across such a thing in my limited expierience. Replaced the lot had it checked by a Gas safe friend all ok. My friend said albeit not common he had seen it before. As a matter of interest has anyone else ever come across a porous iron gas cooker fitting before

 

[smellmycheese]

it's april 1st next month.

 

[Puddle]

More likely to have a hair line crack in it ,a China plc special

 

[Blackcatgas]

No but I once had a kit kat with no biscuit in, it was delicous.

 

[salinia]

Here's a pic of the fitting for any doubting thomas's. Went to the usual suppliers could not get a replacement had to get half inch elbow with a half inch to quarter fitting to replace from a firm called BSS...very helpful as it happened. Those who are more advanced in years may recognise.

 

[salinia]

Yep had the kit kat with no biscuit very good and the orange one they introduced for a short period.

 

[obseen16]

i fitted a main combi and one of the valves (cold inlet valve) had a small hairline crack in it. took me 3 attempts before i realised it was leaking from the mid part of the valve, cheap rubbish i guess. or the QC officer was having a day off when it was made lol.

 

[GQuigley67]

thats what happens when you overtighten they fittings they crack, done it a couple of times myself as a heavy fisted noob also would like to point out that your advertising doing illegal gas work so watch yourself lol

 

[yorkieplumber]

Take it your not gas safe registerd then? you said you replaced the lot then had it checked by a gas safe friend, thats illegal, you should have got the gas safe friend to have done the work not you!

Just thought I would share this, I was asked to give my sister a lift to work this am on arrival I said I can smell gas. She said open that cupboard next to the cooker I think it smells of gas in there. I did it stank of gas, I pulled the cooker out gave it the bubble test it seemed to be leaking from the fitting on the back of the cooker I remade the joint tested again still leaking...on closer inspection I determined the leak was actually coming out of the side of the fitting..it was porous! first time I have ever come across such a thing in my limited expierience. Replaced the lot had it checked by a Gas safe friend all ok. My friend said albeit not common he had seen it before. As a matter of interest has anyone else ever come across a porous iron gas cooker fitting before

 

[plumber0808]

i had this on a cold inlet valve aswell, baxi duotec

 

[GQuigley67]

lol thats a bit dumb puttin they fittings on potable water, wonder who done that a council plumber i bet(no offence to any good council plumbers out there but the ones around here are a joke)

 

[obseen16]

i had this on a cold inlet valve aswell, baxi duotec

yep had this on baxi repair aswell. new valve needed - that had a crack in it to, mind you baxi and main are the same company arent they??? cant stand them now, wont even entertain the thought of installing them now.

 

[salinia]

Take it your not gas safe registerd then? you said you replaced the lot then had it checked by a gas safe friend, thats illegal, you should have got the gas safe friend to have done the work not you!

Wrong: Take a look at this thread from another forum all fairly well explained from someone in the know, quite informative - hope the link works between forums.
It is illegal to work on a domestic gas appliance unless you are Gas Safe Registered. ... Competency in relation to the Gas Regs can only be claimed by a Gas Safe Registered individual. ...Another argument is that you simply don't need to be registered to work on your own appliances - Not true
(Please excuse the paraphrasing)

Sorry, but if "The Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998" are still in force, then you're wrong. CORGI used to give misleading information on this, and it sounds like "GAS SAFE" are following suit. This is an argument that's been had on here before. Rather than repeat it, you can read it here (starting at about post #16):

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168171

There's a new issue of L56 (the HSE guidance) due out soon, but as far as I know it hasn't been published yet. As it stands: "Yes", you need to be competent, "No", it's not a good idea, "Yes" it's pedantic, but it's not *illegal* for non GAS SAFE approved people to work on their own, or friends' or family's domestic gas installations (and you can't self certify for building regs, but that's the same for fitting replacement windows!).

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[yorkieplumber]

Dont think i am wrong on this one, you may be able to do gas work on your property, but working on friends and family i dont think so, if that was the case i would not bother to register with gas safe, all the gas work i would do in the future would be for friends. Clearly you are not compatent to do gas work in my opinion, because you are on a forum asking questions about gas fittings, anyway why risk a prison sentence for manslaughter and risk killing your sister or your friends? Surley common sense prevails!!

Wrong: Take a look at this thread from another forum all fairly well explained from someone in the know, quite informative - hope the link works between forums.
It is illegal to work on a domestic gas appliance unless you are Gas Safe Registered. ... Competency in relation to the Gas Regs can only be claimed by a Gas Safe Registered individual. ...Another argument is that you simply don't need to be registered to work on your own appliances - Not true
(Please excuse the paraphrasing)

Sorry, but if "The Gas Safety (Installation and Use) Regulations 1998" are still in force, then you're wrong. CORGI used to give misleading information on this, and it sounds like "GAS SAFE" are following suit. This is an argument that's been had on here before. Rather than repeat it, you can read it here (starting at about post #16):

http://www.ybw.com/forums/showthread.php?t=168171

There's a new issue of L56 (the HSE guidance) due out soon, but as far as I know it hasn't been published yet. As it stands: "Yes", you need to be competent, "No", it's not a good idea, "Yes" it's pedantic, but it's not *illegal* for non GAS SAFE approved people to work on their own, or friends' or family's domestic gas installations (and you can't self certify for building regs, but that's the same for fitting replacement windows!).

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[Gray0689]

Dont think i am wrong on this one, you may be able to do gas work on your property, but working on friends and family i dont think so, if that was the case i would not bother to register with gas safe, all the gas work i would do in the future would be for friends. Clearly you are not compatent to do gas work in my opinion, because you are on a forum asking questions about gas fittings, anyway why risk a prison sentence for manslaughter and risk killing your sister or your friends? Surley common sense prevails!!

I disagree he did the right thing if it was your sister would you just turn off gas and walk away?
If you are competent which he seems to be as he found the problem (cracked bend) then got it checked by a gas safe plumber
Then he says on here thinking he doing a good turn by trying to let people know of a problem that could arise for the future
Give the man a break
Well done mate TY

 

[stevetheplumber]

i once had a length of tube which was perforated along one side luckily it wasnt under a floor

 

[yorkieplumber]

If you read his original post which started this thread he replaced the pipework not the gas safe engineer, he then had it checked by gas safe mate, but my argument is what if left an unsafe situation between him doing the work and having it checked out, thats where the problem could have arisen! Also thought it was illegal to check and test other peoples work, otherwise all plumbers would not register and get mates to check work, sorry if you think i am been hard, but we are talking GAS here!!!!, QUOTE=Gray0689;133101]I disagree he did the right thing if it was your sister would you just turn off gas and walk away?
If you are competent which he seems to be as he found the problem (cracked bend) then got it checked by a gas safe plumber
Then he says on here thinking he doing a good turn by trying to let people know of a problem that could arise for the future
Give the man a break
Well done mate TY[/QUOTE]

 

[yorkieplumber]

I disagree he did the right thing if it was your sister would you just turn off gas and walk away?
If you are competent which he seems to be as he found the problem (cracked bend) then got it checked by a gas safe plumber
Then he says on here thinking he doing a good turn by trying to let people know of a problem that could arise for the future
Give the man a break
Well done mate TY

Should not be saying well done mate, your just encouraging cowboy work!!!

 

[Gray0689]

I am gas safe registered I don't see a problem with what he did and don't see it as illegal you rather he left a gas leak!!!!!

 

[yorkieplumber]

I am gas safe registered I don't see a problem with what he did and don't see it as illegal you rather he left a gas leak!!!!!

read post 17 mate told you what action he should have done!

 

[Gray0689]

read post 17 mate told you what action he should have done!

I disagree whith what you say we are all intitled to our own opinions

 

[yorkieplumber]

He should have turned gas off and contacted a gas safe engineer simple as that really, its not rocket science, we are talking GAS you can even freephone 0800 111 999 come on dont encourage non gas safe registerd people to carry out repairs your making a mockery out of been registerd and encouraging potential deaths or fatal injuries, we need to act in a professional manner.

 

[yorkieplumber]

Gray0689 i dont believe we are having this discussion, you need to give people the right advice, not encourage non gas safe engineers to do work for family or friends!!

 

[GQuigley67]

no doubt about it whatever way you look at it the OP was wrong in doing the work on his own, it is illegal and it is not us that decide if its right or not its the HSE

 

[Gray0689]

he isnt saying he has a problem with your site, he is slagging your double standards of advertising the fact YOU spent YOUR time and money getting plumbing quals, and suggesting YOUR customers only use fully qualified people (which i agree 100% with) but you say it is OK for the OP to fix his sisters cooker when he is clearly not qualified or competant to do as he got someone in to check his work, what if he missed something which led to danger between his fix and the work beig checked

Hold on a minute it all started because the man fixed his sisters LEAKING GAS FITTING then he got a gassafe engineer to check it I think that does show he was competent I don't think he did anything wrong and I don't think regs will show he did anything wrong who was to say it was not agassafe engineer left the fitting leaking??
We all have our own opinion on this matter
That's my opinion might be right might be wrong but it's mine and I stand by it