Does a gas meter need a mounting bracket?

[Tpritch]

I am currently studying to pas as a gas engineer and I have come stuck on some of The modules and can’t seem to find the answers anywhere.
Q1. A gas meter can be installed without a mounting bracket or support shelf, only when
A1. The supporting pipework either side Is constructed of rigid stainless steel which runs at least 600mm either side and is clipped/supported
A2. It is installed in an area unlikely to be disturbed
A3. It has been installed and signed off by the gas supplier

 

[Dunlopplumbing]

I am currently studying to pas as a gas engineer and I have come stuck on some of The modules and can’t seem to find the answers anywhere.
Q1. A gas meter can be installed without a mounting bracket or support shelf, only when
A1. The supporting pipework either side Is constructed of rigid stainless steel which runs at least 600mm either side and is clipped/supported
A2. It is installed in an area unlikely to be disturbed
A3. It has been installed and signed off by the gas supplier

Shouldn't there be a 4th option? Anyway, for what it's worth if you can't work out the answer from the 3 options, perhaps you may have chosen the wrong career.
A2 although unlikely to be disturbed it could happen, so obviously not the answer.
A3 Just because it has been signed off, doesn't mean it has been installed correctly, remember every job that you ever attend is down to you, and you alone. I have seen many installations that have been signed off, that have not been as per the regulations.

As I have always been told by my trainers & assessors in the past, keep looking the answers are in the book.

Good luck.

 

[Tpritch]

Shouldn't there be a 4th option? Anyway, for what it's worth if you can't work out the answer from the 3 options, perhaps you may have chosen the wrong career.
A2 although unlikely to be disturbed it could happen, so obviously not the answer.
A3 Just because it has been signed off, doesn't mean it has been installed correctly, remember every job that you ever attend is down to you, and you alone. I have seen many installations that have been signed off, that have not been as per the regulations.

As I have always been told by my trainers & assessors in the past, keep looking the answers are in the book.

Good luck.

Going through my workbooks all information points at the meter needing to be adequately supported. I am extremely new to learning this trade but hanging from 2 pipes does not seem safe to me. That’s why I was unsure. I thought it was more likely to be 3 as I assumed the installer would know what they was doing

 

[Steven Garden]

I'm a duel fuel engineer, in answer to your question, the gas meter does need a bracket either screwed to the wall or floor it can be glued to the floor, also their is two types of "standard brackets" (not including semi con brackets) there is the slotted pipe bracket and the clamp bracket if there is a slot in the pipe (outlet) use the slotted bracket if there isn't use the clamp bracket, lead is always clamp bracket hope this answers your question I only completed my course about 4 months so it's all fresh upto date info I have if need anything else I'm happy to help. Cheers steve.

 

[Steven Garden]

Also both the inlet(reg side) and the outlet need to be secured with a shear bolt and washer.

 

[Stu-B]

I'm a duel fuel engineer, in answer to your question, the gas meter does need a bracket either screwed to the wall or floor it can be glued to the floor, also their is two types of "standard brackets" (not including semi con brackets) there is the slotted pipe bracket and the clamp bracket if there is a slot in the pipe (outlet) use the slotted bracket if there isn't use the clamp bracket, lead is always clamp bracket hope this answers your question I only completed my course about 4 months so it's all fresh upto date info I have if need anything else I'm happy to help. Cheers steve.

What’s a duel fuel engineer qualifications? Is that just the basics for fitting meters?

 

[Steven Garden]

What’s a duel fuel engineer qualifications? Is that just the basics for fitting meters?

You have to have cma1 and met 1, cma1 is core gas which is about 80% of ccn1, and met 1 is your domestic meter qualification.

 

[Stu-B]

You have to have cma1 and met 1, cma1 is core gas which is about 80% of ccn1, and met 1 is your domestic meter qualification.

How long is the course for cma1 Do you need any qualifications to enroll and do you need any electrical qualifications for their meters such as C&G2391

 

[Steven Garden]

How long is the course for cma1 Do you need any qualifications to enroll and do you need any electrical qualifications for their meters such as C&G2391

Give me a shout at about tea time tonight and I'll send you all the details mate.

 

[Dunlopplumbing]

Going through my workbooks all information points at the meter needing to be adequately supported. I am extremely new to learning this trade but hanging from 2 pipes does not seem safe to me. That’s why I was unsure. I thought it was more likely to be 3 as I assumed the installer would know what they was doing

Never ever assume anything.
To clarify, BS 6891 States “Unless the meter is securely restrained (e.g. by a meter bracket), the connection to the meter installation shall be in securely fixed rigid pipe for at least the first 600mm”.
Also to be found in the Essential gas safety domestic 8th edition, in section 16 on page 17.
I hope this makes things clear.
You're welcome.
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I'm a duel fuel engineer, in answer to your question, the gas meter does need a bracket either screwed to the wall or floor it can be glued to the floor, also their is two types of "standard brackets" (not including semi con brackets) there is the slotted pipe bracket and the clamp bracket if there is a slot in the pipe (outlet) use the slotted bracket if there isn't use the clamp bracket, lead is always clamp bracket hope this answers your question I only completed my course about 4 months so it's all fresh upto date info I have if need anything else I'm happy to help. Cheers steve.

To clarify, BS 6891 States “Unless the meter is securely restrained (e.g. by a meter bracket), the connection to the meter installation shall be in securely fixed rigid pipe for at least the first 600mm”.
Also to be found in the Essential gas safety domestic 8th edition, in section 16 on page 17.
I hope this makes things clear. I started working in domestic gas 40 years ago, can't wait to retire.

 

[Steven Garden]

Never ever assume anything.
To clarify, BS 6891 States “Unless the meter is securely restrained (e.g. by a meter bracket), the connection to the meter installation shall be in securely fixed rigid pipe for at least the first 600mm”.
Also to be found in the Essential gas safety domestic 8th edition, in section 16 on page 17.
I hope this makes things clear.
You're welcome.
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To clarify, BS 6891 States “Unless the meter is securely restrained (e.g. by a meter bracket), the connection to the meter installation shall be in securely fixed rigid pipe for at least the first 600mm”.
Also to be found in the Essential gas safety domestic 8th edition, in section 16 on page 17.
I hope this makes things clear. I started working in domestic gas 40 years ago, can't wait to retire.

Absolutely Spot on ! 👍

 

[Daniel-J]

He's also a rookie, but I think it's the fourth option.