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Going to purchase a FGA this week because as of next year we all need one right...i wont get into that but anyhow, ive neverrr ever used one. got the course early january next year just want to know what to expect, whats a good reading whats a bad reading? Fires and Boilers in particular...
 
HRP in plumb centre branches do a anyliser cd that goes though the basics,do not think is alot
 
Oh ill pick that up, i just fancy a play before i go on the course, might save a bit of time so i can get back to work without any messing around.
 
Don't stick it in a fire, just do flue flow spillage and ventilation checks and bp or gas rate as usual.

Never stick it in a room sealed fire flue terminal, you will kill the analyser and frighten yourself and the owner of the fire.

Boilers just look at the ratio as you are new to it. wait for boiler to warm up check bp and or gas rate if they are correct and flame picture looks good gingerly place you probe in. If it starts to read high remove it. If not, you are looking for better than 0.004 band A boilers brand new set up correctly are usually < .002. Band G to D boilers are usually < .001, except certain diabolical designs.

When you get >.004 you have to strip and clean then recheck, If after you have scleaned properly and ensured bp/gas rate jet size correct and still get >.004 but less <.008 it is a pass.

But boilers in that state are few and far bewteen and usually poor designs.
 
Lovely thanks. Ordered the Anton today and the guys in the plumbers said that anton themselves will be in touch and will actually come out to a job and go through the function and give a demonstration, which i thought was good of them.
 
Also when checking CO2 on a band A boiler, if it is high, before you adjust it back down first check for any problems like certain boilers develop a crack in the plastic flu collectors which causes mixing POC's in the air intake. Keston flexible exhaust tubes also suffer this as they were the worst materials spec they could have achieved. Ideal Isar and Icos exhaust pipe not made of flexible material like Keston, but just as stupidly made of aluminium so that corrodes, the sign of problems is water damage (which usually gets onto the connector between main pcb and user control hence takes both out). A while back the earlier range of Alpha Band A's were arriving with a cracked plastic flu collector as the heat exchanger was inadequately structurally supported and if transported in wrong orientation it would smash the plastic part. Glow worm and other Vaillant group boilers had massive casing seal problems which they rectified by using graphite seals butt there may be some dodgy ones left. Buderus have changed every single burner and the seals seam to be suspect aswell.

In short, poor flu gas analysis is in the first instance a warning flag for you to look deeper. Band A boilers remove the outer case and repeat flu gas analysis is it is now OK then you know it's leaking poc's into the outer casing seal, so it is one of above issues.

Check flues for seals gine on lost integrity during install by hamfisted installers dislodging the seal. Some manufacturers have had vertical flue terminal problems in the past, and always be aware current models can also have these faults not yet picked up by manufacturer. One simple test is to feel for heat in outer consentric. On the whole there shouldn't be any, check beside joints but also put a temp sensor into intake sensing port which most boilers have.

If all the above checks correct and boiler set up correctly otherwise, now adjust CO2.
 
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