Fire service advice/checks?

[macka09]

alright chaps. More advice needed if you will oblige please I’m servicing a fire tomorrow and just wanted some pointers on what to be looking for. I will be having a flick through my books tonight as I haven’t touched one since the class room. Hopefully MIs will be there to check what they require. Cheers guys.

 

[firemant]

Speaking of MI’s - Unless you are familiar with the Coal Layout - DO NOT start if you don’t have them and cannot download them. Don’t rely on a before photo as the chances are that they are on wrongly.
If the coal base has peaks upon which you place the coals, be VERY aware that they are fragile. If you do the natural thing and grasp a peak to lift it almost certainly will break, and they can be 3 figures to replace.

Inspect everything carefully and point out any cracks etc to the punter and take photos - you do not want to get landed with “it was okay before...,,,,,,”

I always had punters sign my T&C’s which clearly said, and I had pointed out on the phone, that even if I have to cap off the fire the service charge stands. And that return visits will be chargeable - the flue may have a birds nest for example

 

[Deleted member 32524]

Check ventilation and remove cover to check it has not been blocked and of adequate size. Get smoke matches and bombs. A cover to put over the carpet. Something to put the coals in. Check builders opening conforms to size and the hearth and for debris behind. Check whole chimney length for leaks and make sure smoke comes out of only one pot. Make sure pot conforms. Any dampener in the permanently fixed open. Defo have MI to hand

 

[Last Plumber]

alright chaps. More advice needed if you will oblige please I’m servicing a fire tomorrow and just wanted some pointers on what to be looking for. I will be having a flick through my books tonight as I haven’t touched one since the class room. Hopefully MIs will be there to check what they require. Cheers guys.

Which fire? or at least which type?

 

[macka09]

I’m assuming it’s an inset fire to be honest. I’m not to sure. Anything 7kw or less don’t need any other ventilation due to adventitious ??

 

[firemant]

NN

 

[Riley]

I’m assuming it’s an inset fire to be honest. I’m not to sure. Anything 7kw or less don’t need any other ventilation due to adventitious ??

Mis will dictate some do

 

[Harvest Fields]

Do not forget about ceiling fans and fans in other rooms

 

[Last Plumber]

I’m assuming it’s an inset fire to be honest. I’m not to sure. Anything 7kw or less don’t need any other ventilation due to adventitious ??

Some do!
Mainly basket type DFE's though.

 

[Darren Jackson]

You need the mi's for the correct place to perform the spillage test. Take out the fire and with torch visual check of catchment space and condition of chimney / flue liner and terminal then bomb chimney not forgetting to check in loft. If flue liner check the seal round the spigot fire box. Any holes from old BB pipes are sealed and the closer plate tape you use if needed is in date & approved (not gaffer tape). Remember your 26.9 regs (****) and you should be ok. Always do a TT before & LDF test nipples on meter & burner after TT and burner pressure test. Fill out your service report get it signed and keep all records for 6yrs.

 

[Harvest Fields]

You need the mi's for the correct place to perform the spillage test. Take out the fire and with torch visual check of catchment space and condition of chimney / flue liner and terminal then bomb chimney not forgetting to check in loft. If flue liner check the seal round the spigot fire box. Any holes from old BB pipes are sealed and the closer plate tape you use if needed is in date & approved (not gaffer tape). Remember your 26.9 regs (****) and you should be ok. Always do a TT before & LDF test nipples on meter & burner after TT and burner pressure test. Fill out your service report get it signed and keep all records for 6yrs.

6uts. Mine go back at least 9 ha ha

 

[Darren Jackson]

6uts. Mine go back at least 9 ha ha

Yeah my records go back to 2004 when I set up Property Projects he-he. But as a Gas Safe registered engineer/ buisness we are legally bound by contract to record all gas work carried out and archived for a min of 6 yrs.

 

[Burger]

I’m assuming it’s an inset fire to be honest. I’m not to sure. Anything 7kw or less don’t need any other ventilation due to adventitious ??

If it’s an inset be careful of it being fitted correctly, eg the cable fixings, also you might need a replacement kit? Some you can just drill back on, it that’s if there’s a suitable fixing point.

 

[Darren Jackson]

macka09 how did you get on today?

 

[Riley]

Hope the silence isn’t one of a man broken by a fire

 

[macka09]

Sorry guys. I always forget to update. I ended up capping the fire off. On initial inspection the fire looked brand new and hardly used but do you think the flue liner would pull? Not a chance. Even after heating for 15minutes it wouldn’t pull. I didn’t see any dampers in place and ended up cutting it off. The customers were kind enough to inform me that the chimney pot had fallen off previously and a new one fitted. They were unsure how long the pot had been missing. As I was only there for a safety check I advised that we could come back and further investigate which annoys me cos it could have been done on the day. The joys of working for someone else.

 

[Timmy D]

Just wanted to add that all dfe’s require a minimum of 100cm2 ventilation unless specifically stated in the MI’s.

That 100cm2 already includes adventitious air allowance. So if a second dfe was installed in the same room, you would need to increase ventilation by 135cm2 for the second fire.