Fitting secondhand boiler

[Paul Hobson]

Can you legally take a working boiler from one property and refit it in a completely separate property ???

 

[Ermintrude]

Depends on it's sednuk rating. /condition

 

[SimonG]

Why?.

 

[lame plumber]

why would you do that?

 

[townfanjon]

landlord ?

 

[heliotrope]

The short answer is yes.

 

[lame plumber]

the correct answer is: depends, probably not if is an older boiler and if its a new one youll need new flue to be sure its safe, plus a set of manuals to comply with rules etc.

 

[Ray Stafford]

Depends on what you mean by "legally".

There are circumstances where it could be against the criminal law.

There are more circumstances where it will breach non-criminal statutes - for instance the building regs.

However, there are circumstances where it could be completely legit.

 

[REDSAW]

best asking 'who will fit it' ?

 

[MarkOil]

You would have to check with the manufacturer I think. But to be fair unless its a fairly new condensing boiler, I probably wouldn't bother. If it's SE then I wouldn't entertain the idea!!
Manufacturer would be happy to let a qualified OFTEC engineer know about this

 

[Ermintrude]

Thought a breach of act was criminal?

 

[Ray Stafford]

Thought a breach of act was criminal?

Breach of gas act can be criminal.

Failure to meet building regs is civil.

 

[lame plumber]

but councils have enough money to take you to court then take it back of you when they win

 

[Bunker]

Ive fitted used boilers a couple of times, no harm if done professionally if a little unofficially...

 

[Ermintrude]

Isn't gas regs just a statutory instrument - secondary legislation / reg. think they all fall under the Building act 1984? That's what you go to prison for?

 

[Ray Stafford]

Isn't gas regs just a statutory instrument - secondary legislation / reg. think they all fall under the Building act 1984? That's what you go to prison for?

Not my area of expertise, but I thought that all the statutory instruments merely amended or interpreted the core gas acts - 1986, 1995 etc.

 

[Ermintrude]

Yes believe so but gas regs was brought in to satisfy building act requirements ?

 

[Ray Stafford]

Yes believe so but gas regs was brought in to satisfy building act requirements ?

You could be right Guy.

But its actually a criminal offence to do gas work without the relevant approval. Thats a very different thing to not burying a water main deep enough, or failing to upgrade to part L spec.

 

[Reg Man]

Breach of gas regs (Stautory Instrument) could lead to a criminal offence. So? second hand boiler? Manufacturer instructions available? but may be not compliant with building regs also a criminal offence.

 

[Ermintrude]

But building regs (building act 1984) is above gas regs . That's why gas safe can't chase a non registered muppet but labc can.

 

[Reg Man]

Gas regs are above building regs in the legal world.

 

[Ermintrude]

Ay? A statutory instrument is a lesser bit of statute compared to an act? Buildings act is where it all comes from??
http://www.parliament.uk/business/bills-and-legislation/secondary-legislation/statutory-instruments/

 

[Reg Man]

A matter of interpretation. The act goes into finer details to support the breach of the statutory instrument, therefore prosecution cases use the act to support contraventions of the statute.

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

Ay? A statutory instrument is a lesser bit of statute compared to an act? Buildings act is where it all comes from??
Statutory Instruments - UK Parliament

yes gas regs override building regs they dont however overide MI,S

 

[Ermintrude]

I was referring to the buildings act - which is where all the regs are derived from / for? Gas regs, building regs, water regs..... Yeh see that gas is over building and so on.