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I know that this has been covered throughly by another chap (sorry cannot remember his name) but unfortunately the thread hasnt been updated for quite sometime so could anyone elaborate on the valuable info devulged before concerning french plumbing and heating methods and the chance of gaining employment in France. Myself and my girlfriend are heading to the villiage of Serent in Brittany in Febuary. Many thanks to anyone who has had experience of making a living as an engineer out ther and wants to share.
 
Je ne sais pas beaucoup sur la plomberie en France mais je sais qu'ils aiment le vin. J'ai visité la France à plusieurs reprises et ils pensent que rien de tuyaux montés sur la surface du mur plutôt que de les cacher. Une maison je suis allé à même eu la fosse septique sous la maison.

Je vous souhaite tous bonne chance et espérons que vous apprécierez le pays. Beaucoup de britanniques dans le pays et la communauté expatriée est très forte.
 
Je ne sais pas beaucoup sur la plomberie en France mais je sais qu'ils aiment le vin. J'ai visité la France à plusieurs reprises et ils pensent que rien de tuyaux montés sur la surface du mur plutôt que de les cacher. Une maison je suis allé à même eu la fosse septique sous la maison.

Je vous souhaite tous bonne chance et espérons que vous apprécierez le pays. Beaucoup de britanniques dans le pays et la communauté expatriée est très forte.
sounds good...!
 
Je ne sais pas beaucoup sur la plomberie en France mais je sais qu'ils aiment le vin. J'ai visité la France à plusieurs reprises et ils pensent que rien de tuyaux montés sur la surface du mur plutôt que de les cacher. Une maison je suis allé à même eu la fosse septique sous la maison.

Je vous souhaite tous bonne chance et espérons que vous apprécierez le pays. Beaucoup de britanniques dans le pays et la communauté expatriée est très forte.

I was going to say that.
 
I appreciate your flawless French language and it serves as a timely reminder that I need to brush up on my spoken skills, with any luck ill be able to execute written French like yourself in any manner I see fit even maybe with a tinge of tongue in cheek humour.

So anyone done any pipe strangling in France ?
 
Il est facile en utilisant Google Translate ...
 
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Ah Google, I should have twigged more swiftly. My current mental state is preoccupied with current heating and plumbing issues and the complexities of myself and my girlfriends long term goal of moving to Serent to live a slightly more off grid existence.

We need a French plumber to appear and stat pontificating because I would surely listen
 
Scis. I novi habuerunt eu volubilis linguis scribere. Sed mira res est penitus!
EGO instituo is an interesting thread. Bonum est scire, quomodo fiunt in aliis partibus mundi.

Numquam ego ab Gallici sed sicut stillicidium de LUTUM partial.
 
Je vous dis que peu d'avoir vu l'Angleterre à la télé quelques fois avec la femme, nous nous figurons très vivant autour et peut-être il y avoir un camping et le site de pêche, le gazon de la plomberie!.
Seul problème, je cant stand du french.lol.
 
De les?





I'll be very surprised if an online translator will translate this. ;)

no?,
but if i speak french well i will still give you a warning for swearing on the forum,
even if your granny is a religious beast. non?.
 
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No idea what your reference to my 'granny being a religious beast' is about but I'll shut up now. ;)
 
I considered a move to France, but sadly I stayed put and now have to put up with... here!.. One thing I did note was that you need to basically retrain and become an "artisan" it would be wise to study and become fluent in french as you will need to take your gas exams in french, most of the joints you will make will be handmade, i.e. brazing/soldering pipe to form tee's etc. Im unsure to the laws now but I'm pretty sure you used to need permission before you could set up as an "artisan", possible gaining approval from the local mayors office. You would also need to register and gain a "siret" number in order to trade.
This is what I researched and most of it is from memory, you could probably use google and find out a lot more.
 
De les?



I'll be very surprised if an online translator will translate this. ;)


Quite right about de les - just shows how standards fall apart when you rely on computer software (spelcheckers, etc)

My jaw dropped with your second line!!! (It does translate)

Honestly - language, Timothy!!!
 
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Зачем ехать во Францию? Много дрянной от сетки мест в Великобритании
 
(It does translate)

Oops, it wasn't supposed to. ;)

But to answer the original question, the first thing you need to know about French plumbing if you want to work over there (and not come back 12 months later with no money and no home) is to be able to go into a plumbers merchants and buy a pipe without getting punched on the nose. (Yes, there's a French word in this sentence. ;))

You don't need to be fluent but you do need to be able to hold a conversation in French. If you can't do that before you get there then not knowing the nuances of French plumbing is the least of your problems.

As you can probably guess, my plan is to move to France in three to four years. I'm not remotely worried about the slight differences in the way they work compared to us at the moment, it's the incredibly complex tax requirements they have for the self-employed (and the fact you get charged a set amount per year for the first three years rather than a percentage of your yearly earnings) and, as Plaousne mentioned in his excellent posts, the French hate anyone who works on the black, so you have to be able to deal with French beaurocracy (probably with a little help) to be a legal worker.

While the French system is not as user friendly as ours, in many ways it's far superior at keeping the cowboys at bay (one of the reasons being there's a legal requirement to guarantee all your work for 10 years), especially when that system is backed-up by the attitude of the customers to only employ legitimate, registered tradesmen. If only UK customers were as diligent...
 
Oops,should think so to,line removed,no swearing in any language please,even when discussing the French !!:angry_smile:

Only thing I did to know about the french language is
''I'm a Brit,Get me out of here'' before they get me doing any of there restaurant trials like eating snails and frogs legs

Only kidding France is a booootiful place,if it wasn't for the ...................
imho
 
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Je ne sais pas beaucoup sur la plomberie en France mais je sais qu'ils aiment le vin. J'ai visité la France à plusieurs reprises et ils pensent que rien de tuyaux montés sur la surface du mur plutôt que de les cacher. Une maison je suis allé à même eu la fosse septique sous la maison.

Je vous souhaite tous bonne chance et espérons que vous apprécierez le pays. Beaucoup de britanniques dans le pays et la communauté expatriée est très forte.

must a took ye a while to type that unless you done goole translate the other way ,lol
 
Alors, I am in fact a plumber in France. I know this thread is a little old but thought I would chuck my deux centimes into the ring.
The excellent 4 post thread by Plaousne covers the most of it I think, and covers it pretty well.
There are differences between the 2 systems, some minor and some not so minor.
Yes, brazing is pretty much the only way to be accepted here as a plumber, what we do in the UK is known as DIY plumbing over here.
The process of starting up has been made "easier" with changes in the law, including the creation of the statut of "auto-entrepreneur." in reality, nothing has changed, its still incredibly painful, but if you want to, then its possible.
Be VERY aware that there are many different offices involved in setting up your own business, and none of them talk to each other, and I will now give you a small (one of thousands) example.
I had set up my own business and was working, having not gone through the Chambre Des Metiers at all, but through Le Greffe. All was done, my SIRET number was given, I started work. A few weeks later I received a call from the Chambre Des Metiers, telling me I needed to forward all my paperwork to them so that I could register with them. My plea's that all had already been sent fell on typically deaf ears, so I duly did as asked. I was also told I needed to phone a number in Paris, so they could tell me the equivalent qualification in France. I called said number, woman told me "nothing to do with me guv, thats down to the Chambre Des Metiers to sort out, by official edict of the Minister of Commerce since 28 October 2009. I called my local CDM to inform them, and they refused to even listen to me. "Non non non Monsieur" thats not our job, its them in Paris.
This impasse lasted a good few weeks before finally the CDM admitted that they weren't aware of this.
I would take issue with the fact that the French hate working on the black. The French government hate this, as obviously they lose revenue, but the rank and file Frenchy does it all the time. Yes there are fines and imprisonment penalties in place, but they all do it nonetheless.
All in all, although things are hard here, I was very lucky to move to a place where there are only 2 plumbers covering a very large area. I'm struggling at the moment starting off on my own, but there is no way I would move back to the saturated market that is the UK.
Do it, dont be on your deathbed saying "I wonder what would have happened if we'd gone."
 
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