Gas Fire And Fire Box Fit Issue

[asorley]

Hi,

I wonder if anyone can help. DIY enthusiast, but early days, had new gas fire installed (by gsr plumber) as part of a renovation project. Time passed and time came to fit new surround, and met with an issue. Plinths for surround are meant to fit behind lips on the fire, one on each side and one along the top, however because we installed the fire into a firebox the sides are now flush and as a result the top plinth sits high by a couple of centimetres, looking unsightly.

Does anyone have any recommendations as to whether we could pull the fire forward from the firebox and seal the limestone plinths in between the firebox and the fire itself. Would this be safe to do so, and if so what product would be best to provide the necessary seal. The movement would only be forward by 2 or 3 cm so the smoke would still be directed to the outlet on the firebox but offset a little.

Thanks for any advice you can give.

 

[Puddle]

Well persume the gas fire is now being fitted by as gas safe reg person,therefore he will be able to to advise
If you are fitting yourself,as above shows, you are not confident or competent enough to do so ,so get the gsr person who put box in back
Job may have looked easy at first,now you have hit a problem maybe you have been lucky and someone up there saying get it done right

It,s not just putting fire in,you then have to have pull and spillage tests done as well,save your diy for another time,sure you will find lots of safe things to attack

 

[asorley]

Thanks for the prompt reply ! The fire was installed a while ago and works great, but the time which has passed between installation of the fire and getting the fire surround ready means the original plumber is not really obliged to look at the issue and isn't really interested (not looking to fight, probably a bit of blame on both sides).

I appreciate the comment about skills required to perform the task, and if the situation requires hiring a plumber to do so then so be it, but I would be capable of sealing between the firebox, plinths and fire - I just don't know whether it is something I should do. However, I do not want to incur extra expense for a new plumber to just come in and seal exactly as I would have done, hence the request for information ?

Thanks.

 

[payney1974]

You need the fire disconnecting, pull box out, slide surround in, seal surround to wall and seal box to surround, this is why you need a " Gas Safe " engineer. Far too dangerous and illegal for a diyer!

 

[oldplumber]

Thanks for the prompt reply ! The fire was installed a while ago and works great, but the time which has passed between installation of the fire and getting the fire surround ready means the original plumber is not really obliged to look at the issue and isn't really interested (not looking to fight, probably a bit of blame on both sides).

I appreciate the comment about skills required to perform the task, and if the situation requires hiring a plumber to do so then so be it, but I would be capable of sealing between the firebox, plinths and fire - I just don't know whether it is something I should do. However, I do not want to incur extra expense for a new plumber to just come in and seal exactly as I would have done, hence the request for information ?

Thanks.

dont hire in a plumber get a registered gas safe engineer, fires are the most dangerous appliance to install correctly. Houses are now to well sealed up so any resultant leak from a flued fire means they are even more lethal in a modern house than in any of the old victorian piles that had loads of fresh air inlets build in to them.

By moving the fire you are breaking the seals that have previously been tested and confirmed safe. by moving the fire, you will need to recommision the fire and by your own admission you are not qualified to do so, so your only safe and legal option is to call in the qualified people to do the work, and if you combine this with a service you can kill 2 birds with one stone and save a bit of money in the process.

 

[asorley]

Thanks for all the advice, which I'll take and get in a gsr engineer to complete the job.

 

[oldplumber]

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