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i have a gas hob to install in the kitchen where the window is not openable at the moment the outside door of kitchen leads to utility room ! total volume of kitchen is 22,5 m2
please refresh me could i fit it or i need a ventilation to outside
 
If you haven't got an opeanable window or door, direct to outside, then other means is required SGI, that being mechanical extraction :) ... TB005
 
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as mechanical extraction ,what do you suggest just a electrical extractor fan linked with a solenoid valve to gas pipe
 
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Reading TB005 it says that the fan can be intermittent or constant ... Intermittent rate is 30l/s constant 13l/s ... haven't got a clue how you decide intermittent times :) I'd imagine like when you switch a light on as with a bathroom yeh?
 
or is it better to fit a permanent vent to outside ? if so what size ? as gas hob will be about 12kw then all i need is 25mm2 of a permanent vent ?
is been long and i dont remember
 
Remove interconecting door

If there's no door. It's technically the same room
 
customer is willing to keep the door on , however at the moment door is not there but will be refitted by carpenter later on
 
or is it better to fit a permanent vent to outside ? if so what size ? as gas hob will be about 12kw then all i need is 25mm2 of a permanent vent ?
is been long and i dont remember

The ventilation isn't just there to supply air for the appliance to burn it is also for the removal/replacement of the POC's etc I believe SGI... The TB005 goes on to mention the need for intermittent to be on a sensor and also the size doubles depending on whether it's a hood or wall extractor!!! I'm only quoting you paperwork coz jobs like this I would advise the custard and leave it in their hands to sort out :)
 
Extract from TB005 my friend ...

Use of extract fans to achieve purge air requirements for gas cookers
If the kitchen has no external walls, the ventilation provision (background and purge)
should be via an intermittent mechanical extraction fan. The extract fan rate should
be a minimum of 30 l/s where the fan is located above the hob and 60 l/s if the fan is
located elsewhere in the kitchen. Intermittent extract can be operated manually
and/or automatically by a sensor (e.g. humidity sensor, usage sensor, etc.). In
kitchens, any automatic control should provide sufficient flow during cooking with
fossil fuels to avoid the build up of combustion products.
Any automatic control should provide a manual over-ride to allow the occupant to
turn the extract system on.
The fan should have a 15 minute over-run facility. In rooms with no natural light the
fan may be controlled by the operation of the main light switch.
If the extraction is via a cooker hood, the cooker hood should be installed paying due
regard to both the hood and cooker manufacturer’s installation instructions.
Mechanical extract terminals and extract fans should be placed as high as
practicable but preferably within 400mm of the ceiling.
To ensure good transfer of air throughout the dwelling, there should be an undercut
of a minimum area of 7600mm2 in all internal doors between the internal kitchen, the
adjoining room and outside air above the floor finish. (This is equivalent to an
undercut of 10mm from a standard width 760mm door).

Isn't that as clear as mud !!! :lol:
 
i have done the full plumbing and heating in this house all i have left to do is kitchen sink and gas hob there .

i told builder who is there by trade carpenter that i need the window which is in the kitchen to be made openable , but they are trying there luck I told them if is not there then it will need a extractor fan with a shat of valve ! Will see if i get them to make window openable if not will explain how expansive and complicate will get !
Thank you for the replay to all , any other suggestions are welcome !

thx stan
 
will cal manufacture next time when i get there as gas hob is still in the box ! it looks i have two options window made openable or extractor fan with a min of 60l/s linked to the light with min of 15min override
 
will cal manufacture next time when i get there as gas hob is still in the box ! it looks i have two options window made openable or extractor fan with a min of 60l/s linked to the light with min of 15min override

Get hold of the TB005 Stan and print it off! Hand a copy to the custard and one to the builder. Let them decide how they are going to supply the air for you to be able to install the hob.. :)

They can ring GasSafe who will send them a copy i believe :)
 
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