gas meter with no bracket

[plumberbd]

hI guys
i m a new gsr .i went to a property to do landlord cert. i found 2 anacondas with no bracket, meter siting on a shelf. i clasified it as AR. but who should put the bracket on. is it the gas provider or me? called EDF, they say its me who should deal with it. but one of the gsr engineer i know said it it the gas provider who is responsible.

please help

 

[snowhead]

hI guys
i m a new gsr .i went to a property to do landlord cert. i found 2 anacondas with no bracket, meter siting on a shelf. i clasified it as AR. but who should put the bracket on. is it the gas provider or me? called EDF, they say its me who should deal with it. but one of the gsr engineer i know said it it the gas provider who is responsible.

please help

Ask yourself who is responsible for the meter, therefore also the fixing of.

 

[Blake]

Hi,

If there is no immediate danger then it is the gas provider who is responsible. Nat grid will only do it if it is dangerous and putting stress on pipework etc.

 

[Blake]

Also, get yourself verified as a GSR with the appropriate mod so you can post in the gas forum and ask for advice on more specific gas matters.

 

[plumberbd]

i am pretty sure its the gas provider. m i right?

 

[plumberbd]

ok got the answer .. thanks a lot

 

[Resolute]

Gas provider. EDF in this case.

 

[Rob Sale]

It's the Emergency service provider I.e Scotia gas networks, transco etc.

 

[Dotty]

Moving to the public gas forum.

 

[arran197]

Is it actually ar if its sitting on a shelf though? Not just ncs? If it was hanging on the anacondas I'd say ar.

So is it national grid that put the bracket in this case ?

 

[snowhead]

Is it actually ar if its sitting on a shelf though? Not just ncs? If it was hanging on the anacondas I'd say ar.

So is it National grid that put the bracket in this case ?

It's never National Grid - Gas, they don't Supply, they Transport, they don't own/ maintain meters

 

[Blake]

It's never National Grid - Gas, they don't Supply, they Transport, they don't own/ maintain meters

Incorrect, I had reason to call nat grid on this matter last week and was informed, as per my first post, that if no meter bracket meant it was putting stress on pipework then they would attend and fit/replace meter bracket. Otherwise it's down to the gas supplier.

 

[dave1]

It's never National Grid - Gas, they don't Supply, they Transport, they don't own/ maintain meters

So if the regulator is knackered, who do you call? National grid.

Therefore in my opinion national grid should fit a bracket if required b

 

[Rob Sale]

if no bracket and is supported by shelveing and secure, so its NCS imo and experience.

 

[Old Dog]

Correct Blake.

 

[AWheating]

as far as im aware theres no requirement for it to have a bracket if fitted on a shelf and its secure. the 2 flexi's are NCS. Its AR if the meter is unsecure or there is any strain on the unions/connecting pipework etc....

the grid will attend and make safe any AR or ID situation on the meter, if they fit a bracket or change something i think they charge the supplier for the service.

 

[buckley plumb]

gas provider are not bothered i have lost count the times i reported situations like this .

 

[Resolute]

gas provider are not bothered i have lost count the times i reported situations like this .

As much as people hate them if you phone BG to report an unsupported meter then they will book a job and get it sorted.

 

[GrahamM]

as far as im aware theres no requirement for it to have a bracket if fitted on a shelf and its secure. the 2 flexi's are NCS. Its AR if the meter is unsecure or there is any strain on the unions/connecting pipework etc....

the grid will attend and make safe any AR or ID situation on the meter, if they fit a bracket or change something i think they charge the supplier for the service.

As mentioned, as long as meter sitting on a surface it will only be NCS.

As much as people hate them if you phone BG to report an unsupported meter then they will book a job and get it sorted.

Can you elaborate on this?

I was subbing to BG a while back and after reporting an unsupported meter hanging in mid air, 6 ft up, was told by Manager to just 'AR' it and leave to the customer to arrange to call the gas transporter to remedy.

 

[buckley plumb]

As mentioned, as long as meter sitting on a surface it will only be NCS.


Can you elaborate on this?

I was subbing to BG a while back and after reporting an unsupported meter hanging in mid air, 6 ft up, was told by Manager to just 'AR' it and leave to the customer to arrange to call the gas transporter to remedy.

national grid told me who ever you pay your bill to is responsable for the meter

 

[Resolute]

As mentioned, as long as meter sitting on a surface it will only be NCS.


Can you elaborate on this?

I was subbing to BG a while back and after reporting an unsupported meter hanging in mid air, 6 ft up, was told by Manager to just 'AR' it and leave to the customer to arrange to call the gas transporter to remedy.

The service and repair manager was wrong then. BG have their own metering division and if a meter is reported as needing attention a job will be raised. They won't come out for an NCS situation but AR they will and ID will be raised as an emergency job.

Also if a meter is old or badly corroded then they will replace.

 

[Pssst]

Meters fitted in the following circumstances;

1) Not on a bracket but otherwise supported by being stood on a shelf/floor/whatever
2)Fitted on two anacondas and supported as in (1)
3)Meters as in (1) but fitted with an anaconda outlet

Are all NOT AR/DGI.

These are simply historical examples of meter fitting methods which have since been superceded but there is no retrospective requirement to have them updated.

They will be updated in due course as and when a meter asset manager (MAM) requests an exchange of their meter.

Non of the above situations is actionable and are perfectly safe to leave.

At worst they are NCS

ESPs are only responsible for network issues and emergency response.

They only engage in meterwork in certain circumstances for eg...

1)When contracted to do so by a MAM in which case a charge is made by the ESP to the MEM
2)Where meter work is authorised following an emergency response call and there is a PEMs contract in place. For example,a smell of gas is reported and it is found that a GSR has butchered the test nipple. If a PEMs contract is in place, the ESP will fit a new meter and upgrade it to current standard. If no PEMs in place, ESP caps supply,issues warning notice and advises customer to contact supplier
PEMs= Post Emergency Meterwork

Botom line, it is incorrect to phone the ESP to report no bracket/anacondas as it isnt their issue unless they are contracted by the MAM to upgrade and charge. If customers wish to report such matters,they should route it via their gas supplier.

Its all about commercial contracts and charging.

 

[Blake]

Again, as I said in my first reply which came direct from Nat Grid. How long can we drag this thread out

 

[ndsmith]

Maybe another page or so....

Can we clarify this again please

 

[AWheating]

what about a meter resting on an apple and 2 pears?? call the grid???