gas rate

[bassmonster]

when you are carrying out a gas rate for a boiler, do you also have the make sure the cooker is turned on with 3 rings burning?

likewise, if carrying out gas rate on cooker, do you have to be running the hot tap for the boiler?

 

[mutley racers]

You're getting mixed up with inlet pressure at appliance. Gas rate only operate the appliance you're rating. Also, a cooker you need all rings on

 

[bassmonster]

Hi Mutley,
I probably didn't ask the question properly. just asking, when carrying out gas rate, do all appliances have to be on regardless of the appliance you are checking?

 

[mutley racers]

No, only the one you're testing. Otherwise you will end up with a massive gas rate of all appliances on together.

 

[bassmonster]

you da man mutley..thank you...

it's just that i remember doing something checking the gas rate with all appliances on....but cannot remember why.......would it have been to check the working pressure on the meter?

 

[Deleted member 32524]

Yes, Bass. To check Wp at the meter all appliances on full.

 

[combo]

To check working pressure ( 21mb +/- 2 ) you only operate the largest appliance, if u use a cooker...just 3 rings. You don't need to operate ALL appliances

 

[bassmonster]

talking of working pressure...i came across a meter which had which had standing pressure of 26.5mb and the working pressure was 25mb. i found this to be high and thought maybe a problem with the regulator but the person i'm alongside said it's ok...... yay or nay?

 

[combo]

23mb WP max, so, I'd have said no....

 

[Barry98]

OI ! ive given you privlages to ask these questions in the arms off the main public forum please post in there or well have to start removing them from joe publics eye

 

[bassmonster]

apologies sir....

(grabs coat and legs it to arms)

 

[Killy Bing]

Its in the arms now

if you have to learn it, its todo with gas or an appliance or testing principles then put it in the arms.
same for pricing queries &

 

[Toxic Ted]

Have the rules for non gas safe members changed so that they can ask questions in the arms then?

 

[Dotty]

Only in as much for training purposes.

We obviously can't let them into the private forum because of the amount of detail in there. Neither can we allow these sort of questions in open forum.

There's nowhere else but the Arms at the moment.

 

[Killy Bing]

Only in as much for training purposes.

We obviously can't let them into the private forum because of the amount of detail in there. Neither can we allow these sort of questions in open forum.

There's nowhere else but the Arms at the moment.

Could we have a training forum which all us gsr have access too but can't make new threads
admit trainees to it with 30 + posts, private ofcourse
trainees can make a new thread but after 7 days is moved to the gsr forum automaticly or when it has been resolved?

 

[Toxic Ted]

Only in as much for training purposes.

We obviously can't let them into the private forum because of the amount of detail in there. Neither can we allow these sort of questions in open forum.

There's nowhere else but the Arms at the moment.

No disrespect to Bassmonster but these are questions he should be asking his mentor on the job or during gas training. Does someone on here know him personally and can confirm that he is actually training? I dont want to get anyones back up but i still dont think the arms is the place.

 

[Barry98]

It's the best place for now and I made the call based on his posts and speaking to him , every now and then we have to do something similar to army ash.

its hard to know a trainee and a DIY apart and we have no way of proving who is a trainee as they don't have cards etc

 

[Barry98]

I'll create a sticky

 

[Toxic Ted]

The problem is not really if we can trust the likes of bassmonster, but more having it in a place where other pub members have access to the q&a's. We have had a few in the past who were trusted enough to get into the arms but you wouldn't trust them with a sharp pencil once certain things come to light.

 

[bassmonster]

No disrespect to Bassmonster but these are questions he should be asking his mentor on the job or during gas training. Does someone on here know him personally and can confirm that he is actually training? I dont want to get anyones back up but i still dont think the arms is the place.

hey toxic,
i am in training..not too sure what one does to prove it....also, whilst i'm asking my mentor things i'm not sure about, there were a couple things that he wasn't sure about either...for example, there was a flue less than 300mm away from a window. he said it was ID and he would never issue a safety certificate. i then asked here and found that wasn't the case.

Also, without any disrespect to anyone, there will always be an engineer looking into the books to find the answer. seeing as this place has a wealth of knowledge, i just want reassurance that i'm doing things the way they should be done.

 

[Toxic Ted]

hey toxic,
i am in training..not too sure what one does to prove it....also, whilst i'm asking my mentor things i'm not sure about, there were a couple things that he wasn't sure about either...for example, there was a flue less than 300mm away from a window. he said it was ID and he would never issue a safety certificate. i then asked here and found that wasn't the case.

Also, without any disrespect to anyone, there will always be an engineer looking into the books to find the answer. seeing as this place has a wealth of knowledge, i just want reassurance that i'm doing things the way they should be done.

Understood, but you have to see it from the other side bud.....we are not trying to keep a secret from the likes of yourself and other people in training, but we do have a duty of care not to arm unqualified have a go fitters with a little bit of knowledge and from putting others at risk. If the mods can come up with a way of answering yours and others questions who are training then all well and good but as i said previously, i dont think the arms is the place for it. As for the 300 mm id, new designs and changes to current regs are always on the move which is why we have to keep doing reassessments and there are differences of interpretation between fitters of which some can be quite ambiguous and sometimes need a quick call to Gas safe or the manufacturers for clarification.

 

[bassmonster]

Ted, I completely understand mate about the danger of working with gas and I'm glad that this forum takes it seriously. I've come across another forum which openly discuss troubleshooting.

I'm just hoping I can be half as knowledgeable as some of the members here.

 

[billybob150811]

quite a lot of people who are training are more thorough than their mentor in those situations it isn't a second opinion the guy wants its a nagging doubt that your mentor is a half wit