Gas safe or not to be...

[Fallon1982]

Worked for a nice old dear today. She tells me she had her new combi and central heating system installed recently by a good friend of her ex husband. He did everything including move her gas meter which is in her bedroom from one wall to another.
Turned out at the end of the job he isn't even gas safe but not to worry as he can get someone to issue a certificate. Needless to say this crook has disappeared off the face of the earth.
Now I'm not gas safe but have some questions:
1. Could I get this crook banged up? Legally I mean?
2. Can you even move a gas meter with or without gas safe?
3. Would a gas safe engineer even work on this system to carry out a gas safety certificate knowing it's been messed with by a third party who's not gas safe, or just shut it off and condemn the lot?
4. If yes, where does she stand on getting it sorted?

I feel obliged to do something for this poor old sod, as she's been had over completely. If I can get said gas man shafted at the same time, then bonus for me!

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

sadly not, shes not dead so no one will do anything

 

[Phil]

sadly not, shes not dead so no one will do anything

You GSR guys don't seem to have much faith in the scheme that takes £500 a year off you or whatever it costs you.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

they wont do anything but its worth a check to make sure everything is ok and sound

 

[Masood]

You GSR guys don't seem to have much faith in the scheme that takes £500 a year off you or whatever it costs you.

If you're registered they will fine you or even revoke your reguistreation. If you're unregistered they'll write you a nice letter inviting you to join up. It's a legalised scam.

 

[Riley]

Sadly that's the reality of it

 

[Fallon1982]

So would a gas safe engineer carry out a service / safety check without any problems?

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

So would a gas safe engineer carry out a service / safety check without any problems?

depends on his or her findings

 

[sheff paul]

Worked for a nice old dear today. She tells me she had her new combi and central heating system installed recently by a good friend of her ex husband. He did everything including move her gas meter which is in her bedroom from one wall to another.
Turned out at the end of the job he isn't even gas safe but not to worry as he can get someone to issue a certificate. Needless to say this crook has disappeared off the face of the earth.
Now I'm not gas safe but have some questions:
1. Could I get this crook banged up? Legally I mean?
2. Can you even move a gas meter with or without gas safe?
3. Would a gas safe engineer even work on this system to carry out a gas safety certificate knowing it's been messed with by a third party who's not gas safe, or just shut it off and condemn the lot?
4. If yes, where does she stand on getting it sorted?

I feel obliged to do something for this poor old sod, as she's been had over completely. If I can get said gas man shafted at the same time, then bonus for me!

been there phoned Corgi they werent bothered,might be different now,walk away,people don't thank you for telling them the truth..

 

[thompsonbrown]

Worked for a nice old dear today. She tells me she had her new combi and central heating system installed recently by a good friend of her ex husband. He did everything including move her gas meter which is in her bedroom from one wall to another.
Turned out at the end of the job he isn't even gas safe but not to worry as he can get someone to issue a certificate. Needless to say this crook has disappeared off the face of the earth.
Now I'm not gas safe but have some questions:
1. Could I get this crook banged up? Legally I mean?
2. Can you even move a gas meter with or without gas safe?
3. Would a gas safe engineer even work on this system to carry out a gas safety certificate knowing it's been messed with by a third party who's not gas safe, or just shut it off and condemn the lot?
4. If yes, where does she stand on getting it sorted?

I feel obliged to do something for this poor old sod, as she's been had over completely. If I can get said gas man shafted at the same time, then bonus for me!

Informing customers about the importance of using registered engineers is paramount, but trying to get this guy locked up is a route I would avoid. A fitter I know did this and had his 4 van tyres slashed, nothing happened to the guy about the install and no proof with the police about his van.

 

[plumben]

Only Transco can move the supply to the meter, a GSR can move it within the length of the anaconda as far as I'm aware

 

[plumben]

Informing customers about the importance of using registered engineers is paramount, but trying to get this guy locked up is a route I would avoid. A fitter I know did this and had his 4 van tyres slashed, nothing happened to the guy about the install and no proof with the police about his van.

I'd agree with this, its unfortunate but in this day and age you need to just let things go otherwise you end up worse off and the little ..... get away scot free

 

[TFGplumbing]

Informing customers about the importance of using registered engineers is paramount.

Most people don't even know what gas safe is, alot still think its corgi... maybe that's just wales though

 

[TFGplumbing]

I myself have been asked for my gas safe ID card a total on once in 4.5 years

 

[Scott_D]

Get her to arrange a free gas safe inspection

 

[Millsy 82]

I myself have been asked for my gas safe ID card a total on once in 4.5 years

That beats me, I have never been asked.

Tell her to phone gas safe and report them.

 

[firemant]

I've been asked twice since I went SE in 1991. And one of those times was in response to me telling a biddy that no one asks to see my card.

It's our fault though. We should habitually wear it on a lanyard and show folk - they would then get used to asking for it.

 

[Fallon1982]

Well I just think it's wrong that he's done it and obviously does it time and time again.
If you can freely go around do all this gas work like him then what's the point paying to be gas safe?
You guys pay enough to get your tickets at the end of the day. The laws should be firmer imo.

 

[jtsplumbing]

Well myself and I would thing a few others on here remember the days B4 Corgi etc. gas was part of plumbers job, I worked on doing the gas conversions from town to natural , we in stalled all sorts of gas appliances , the thing what does stand out is that you couldn't buy gas fire fixing kits or cooker hose's you had to take headed note paper with purchase order to local gas board store

 

[kirkgas]

Only Transco can move the supply to the meter, a GSR can move it within the length of the anaconda as far as I'm aware

Any GSR with appropriate meter ACS can relocate a meter, but not inlet, with written consent from supplier

 

[kirkgas]

Well I just think it's wrong that he's done it and obviously does it time and time again.
If you can freely go around do all this gas work like him then what's the point paying to be gas safe?
You guys pay enough to get your tickets at the end of the day. The laws should be firmer imo.

Start by reporting the illegal work to Gas Safe or HSE, advise customer to report to trading standards, advise customer to pay GSR to fully check install to ensure it is safe, this will/may be costly and intrusive depending on pipe,runs etc, but at the moment it hasn't been confirmed as safe

 

[JCSPLUMBING]

I have a mate who always does this also on private jobs. He's a very decent plumber as well. He fits everything how it should be done and just gets his mate to fill in the benchmark for a fee. I asked him just yesterday why don't he just join gas safe and his response was if its all done correctly then what's the point as no one cares anyway. Also the £2000 it would cost him was another issue.

 

[hammers4spanner]

I came across a job few weeks ago where they asked me to service their boiler and i AR it'd it..Turned out they had the boiler installed by a plumber and they knew he wasnt gas reg. The gasman he wanted to sign it off wouldn't as he knew pipework was undersized.

I turn up to do a service and notice the pipe issue so inform customer and then they ask me to sign it off!!!

They couldn't care less who they used but wanted me to sign it off for price of a service , unfortunately some people just don't care and gas safe don't either.

 

[kirkgas]

I have a mate who always does this also on private jobs. He's a very decent plumber as well. He fits everything how it should be done and just gets his mate to fill in the benchmark for a fee. I asked him just yesterday why don't he just join gas safe and his response was if its all done correctly then what's the point as no one cares anyway. Also the £2000 it would cost him was another issue.

I think the person who signs it off is worse than the plumber who asks him