Gas safe

[secret squirrel]

In the last few days when I've been working I've had a look at how the boiler
has been installed. I've noticed a few basic errors and have thought that I
could do better, eg. condensate into a bucket, prv onto kitchen floor, Prv not direct at ground
at childs head height!

I've looked at the gas safe website but it wasn't very helpful.

What do I need to do to become gas safe?

ACS exams and then.........

Thankyou.

 

[GQuigley67]

is the guy finished ??? thats no way to install a boiler, is he even registered, there is a potential of POC's to come into the room when the condensate trap is dry if the condensate pipe does not terminate correctly

 

[secret squirrel]

is the guy finished ??? thats no way to install a boiler, is he even registered, there is a potential of POC's to come into the room when the condensate trap is dry if the condensate pipe does not terminate correctly

Oh No! these are already installed by professional qualified (apparently) gas safe qualified people.

1st one was PRV dumped onto a garage floor, boiler had been installed by someone and has apparently been serviced regularly.

2nd condensate installed through a wall exiting onto a path, apparently froze in winter, gas safe engineer pulled it through the wall and dumped it in a bucket, they can't get him back. The thing with this one is there is a basin waste within easy reach!

3rd Today, PRV about 4' off of the ground, again installed by an engineer and serviced by same!

All people advised and not one of them interested in the potential danger!

Here's the thing:

I don't believe customers, so, when I'm told 'Gas safe blah blah' we have to accept it at face value.

On the condesate issue the house was done up by a builder and cheap, a 200ish litre unvented with the flow and return in 15mm plastic, one of the 2 port valves is knackered customer is happier using the immersion than paying me to fix it......... or the condensate.

PRV going to kick out at kids head height 'we're going on holiday tonight, we'll call when we're back' yeah right.

PRV in garage, 'well its not caused us a problem yet, if it was wrong why hasn't it been picked up yet'

Hence, next year I want to do my gas. I am capable of doing better jobs than above now!

 

[AWheating]

if you have the correct qualifications or experience then all you need to do is get your ACS and register with gas safe. Also advise all your insurances that you now do gas work.

most of the local counsils around by me had condense pipe's terminated into bowls and buckets under some boiler's last winter. It was done by the call out contractors after external pipework had frozen. I was still in may/june reconnecting them as i came across them while attending the propertys during kitchen renewal work and performing visual inspections.

 

[armourer]

As for the condensates. I worked for a national company last year that covered boiler breakdowns.
We started off defrosting and reconnecting under the insurance policys but we were finding we were getting called back later in the day to do the same job.
(-25 at night and -8 max during the day).
This was at the time when customers had to wait 2 weeks for an engineer to turn up. So the decision was made to cut the pipe under the boiler and terminate into a bucket. There is no danger of flue products entering the property as the boilers have a condensate trap.

The intention was to log all of these and return to reconnect when the weather warmed up (assuming they all met current regulations).

Anyway in the mean time the company was taken over by an even bigger national company and I assume a lot got missed?

I think there might be a few of these out there.

 

[AWheating]

did you work for spi, chn, or phjones?

 

[AWheating]

its been mentioned on here that some boilers have a tendancy to dry out there condense trap in certain situations, if this could happen then its not a great idea to leave them into a bucket.