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Hi im Kyle,

I'm currently serving in tthe army as a mechanical engineer but leaving soon.

Im looking to retrain as a gas engineer but not sure who to train with ive found a company called get training who are offering a complete course from basic to fully gas safe registered consisting of 6 weeks college and 8 weeks work based placement for around £4k. was wondering if this is good value for money or if im being ripped off.

From being couped up in the army im quite unaware of the present gas engineer industry and how its been affected by the recession so not really sure whether to go self employed or work for a company.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks
Kyle :D
 
The course is 1% of the graft and the 99% is finding a fully qualified gas engineer to take you on to pass the assessments , even for free labour for a year! especially at your age , otherwise i would be doing and learning gas now. Unfortunately in these times and at your age it is near enough impossible and hell will freeze over first. Get the placement before paying the money for a course like this otherwise you will be out of pocket and out of a job and the college you trained at will have your money and not give a monkeys. Good luck.
 
Yes

You will see a lot on here asking about getting placements and offering to work with qualified Gas fitters. It wont be easy but if you can get a placement from them beofre you hand over the cash then your laughing. Make sure you getting it in writing and not the salesman's ' Oh yeah, that will be easy'
 
Thanks for the advice its very helpful saying i did get a placement to learn from and did the course what is the industry like at the moment due to the recession etc?
 
I live in Nottingham at the min but will be moving to Burton on Trent
 
Hi Kyle,
Just my personal opinion really...i visited my local get-training to see what they offered and walked away sharpish when the salesman was getting pushy for a deposit on training which by the time he'd finished the sales pitch was near enough £6000. If you can make the journey then theres a college in Walsall that do the same course for £2500, as i said it's just my opinion so i cant vouch for either of the courses. I chose local Tech college which is costing way less than either of those courses and the training and tutors are first class. As for the job situation well theres plenty of jobs advertised in the midlands but like all industrys the vacancies are hard fought over and you need to be realistic in what you want to earn and offer yourself cheap just to get a foot in the door, thats what i did and i found a guy to work with once im done at college.
Feel free to PM me and ill gladly pass on all the info ive got.

Good luck
Bri
 
dont sign up for anything that doesnt have a guaraneed work placement because the engineers out there wont even reply i sent 60 emails guess how many answers i got
 
And get it in writing. Without a work placement you won't build a portfolio and would have just wasted your money!!!!
 
i have said this before i am sure?

my mate, who is the gas safe registered installer, called gas safe direct and asked what min qualification in plumbing do you need for a gas safe registration.
answer was a min level 2 nvq in plumbing.
so, if you dont have this first you are wasting your time and money as you will not get registered. try calling them yourself.
good luck.
 
Redsaw....i'm sure you can do a 'foundation' course which according to the college catologue i have in front of me "is aimed at people with little or no gas experience, the training course is designed to encourage the safe operations and instalations of domestic gas and will lead up to the ACS assesment". As i understand it you do the foundation course then build a portfolio with a RGI then take ACS assesments, if you pass you become an RGI?

Bri
 
no!

you can go there, whith a big hammer too, if you like, right up to the doors of the gas safe register with all relevant certificates. but if you aint got an nvq 2 min, you can bang as hard as you like but they wont let you in.

give em a call tommorow, if you get a diferent amswer, let me know.

by the way,
just tried the 'gettraining.com' web-site and well,
its down or theve done a runner?.
 
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I phoned Gas-safe today, i asked if a 40yr old who worked in I.T all his life could take a foundation course the build a portfolio then take ACS assesments and if succesful in all of these register with Gas-safe, the answer....yes. I quote..."all we are interested in is the ACS certificates, my suggestion for someone with no plumbing/engineering background would be to take C&G 6012 (gas instalation/maintenance) but whatever the route the ACS certificates are imperative"
I feel i need to point out this is NOT what i am doing, i spent over 10 years in gas before changing career, im now training up to current gas regs in 'proper' tech college.
I'm truly amazed how many oufits there are taking over the industry training. £3k+ buys you a gas ticket....god help us.

Mods feel free to move this if it should be elswhere.

bri
 
wow bri,
me thinks my boss/mate has been telling porkies to me then.
i will make the call too just from the horses mouth so to speek.
i think he may have been holding me back?.
i too started plumbing 30 years ago but with no gas mainly in the hotel markets,maintenance etc. also inbetween i.t. programmer.
 
Go for it redsaw, bit naughty if your boss is holding you back?
I should have got the guys name at gas safe, never gave it a thought at the time.
Let us know how you get on.

Bri
 
Hi all I am new here my background is in the heat pump sector and due to a requirment of one of my biggest customers I had to get registered for gas work. I have no plumbing qualifications but do have a HND in refrigeration and air conditioning. I gained my ACS last nowember had an assessment in december, Hey presto Corgi registered . To be fair it did all seem to easy to get such a recognised registration.
 
cant u become a plumber/ gas engineer within the royal engineers?
 
i've worked closely with one of these fellas....... came out fully trained, helping him to upgrade to s-plan he held a 2-port valve and asked where it went i suggested looking at the drawing i'd given him he did then started to fit it after the air sep he was adamant it was the right place for a circulating pump!!!! he was right it just wasn't a circulating pump
 
i've worked closely with one of these fellas....... came out fully trained, helping him to upgrade to s-plan he held a 2-port valve and asked where it went i suggested looking at the drawing i'd given him he did then started to fit it after the air sep he was adamant it was the right place for a circulating pump!!!! he was right it just wasn't a circulating pump

whats one of these fellas ?
 
cant u become a plumber/ gas engineer within the royal engineers?

When I was with them, after I had done my apprenticeship and a couple of years on the tools, I was on a course at Chatham, to be upgraded to a B1 plumber, talk about cockeyed they were, this was the first time I ever saw a chimney back gutter being bossed to form a break (internal corner) instead of dressing the lead down and around, spring bending of 11/2" lead pipe, again another first, it should have been bobbins used to form the bend

Now this is true, with no fancy elaborations
Upcountry in Aden, Thumier to be exact, conversation between a certain Sargent Page, and me

Sapper, I have plumbing job for you to do all the material is there

[200 gal cold water than with two 1/2 female **** welded on to the side about an inch from the bottom, on two concrete block walls, 4 No 1/2" M x F stopcocks 20 foot of 1/2" iron and the same in 3/4", two 1/2" equal "tees"; two 1/2" elbows, 4 No 8" dia shower roses, with 3/4 female tappings, tools were 1 2 foot 2 fold brass rule, 1 hacksaw, 1 set of stocks and dies, 1 pipe vice on a tripod]

Sgt Page I want 4 showers put up at equal spaceing

Me OK sgt Page

After having a shufti at what was there, I went back and asked where the hemp and boss white was

Sgt Page you don't need any, and there isent any

Me have you any paint and string then

Sgt Page your a plumber not a painter

Me Oh gawd, begging your pardon sgt Page I would need something to seal the joints

Sgt Page your a Sapper improvise

Me also where are the 3/4 x 1/2 bushes, I cannot find any, could you radio down for 4 to be flown up on a flight

Sgt Page you don't need anything else

By this time I was getting a bit pished off, so I explained in words of one syllable, why I wanted 4 No 3/4 x 1/2 bushes

Sgt Page pipe shower put them together

I was starting to see red by now, so I politely asked Sgt Page to follow me to the work place, there I took the brass rule and placed it over the end of a bit of 1/2 iron, (by this time I had all the iron in place, and just needed the bushes to finish), I said this is half inch iron pipe it measures approximatly 3/4" overall, agree?, yes he said, now I took a shower head and showing him both rule and size of the hole, said this is for 3/4" iron it measures about an inch, now can you see why I want the bushes, well bug ger me, his words were shower there pipe there put them together, by this time I had lost it completely, so I grabs a shower head, sticks it over the nipple from the stopcock, and rattles it around, saying it like ***** in a 'oars "tinuck", soon as I take my hand away it flaming well falls down; what's going to hold it up scotch flaming mist

Sgt Page I see, what could you do your the sapper you will have to improvise

Well I could cut and weld a short of 3/4" to the half inch (there was no 1/2 sockets that I could cut a thread on to make an improvised bush), good idea sapper, only one problem we have run out of acetylene

What about the REME sgt Page they have some, could you ask for the loan of a bottle? it would come better from you seeing that you have 3 (stripes) on your arm,

Sgt Page that's a direct order sapper you will ask REME

Then when it was all finished, just to wind me up a bit more, he comes along, and says to me why did it take you all day to do that job, when according to my book it should have taken you half a day?; that was it !! I did my nut, and told him in building language exactly what he could do with the book, and that the book says the times are for temperate climates, in ideal conditions and with all the materials to hand, and that I was upcountry with the shade temperature over 100°F, and that I was working outside in the sun, with only half the material I needed

Talk about foaming at the mouth and jumping up and down, I only escaped getting charged for insubordination because he knew that the charge would not stick, if I gave my version of events when in front of the old man
 
Hi i just recently become qualified gas engineer and before just a plumber and i can't tell you how hard it was to get a gas engineer to help with my portfolio...............when i asked companies it was as if you where asking for their liver.proper tough........i feel for you mate.............i was lucky and had gas engineer and struck a deal,any gas work i got he could have the job providing i come along and done the training,he got paid i got my portfolio signed

difficult mate but if you try hard enough someone will take you on


Good Luck!
 
whats one of these fellas ?

ex army done a crash course, fully qualified!! ready for anything ????:):rolleyes:
smashing fella though don't get me wrong and hes doing well now
 
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