Gutter fitting: Square plastic to half round cast. Is it possible?

[martind]

Is it possible to get a fitting that will join a half round cast gutter to a run off that has square plastic on the other end? There is one drain pipe but two different types of gutter have to run in to it.

 

[Ray Stafford]

You can run them both into a hopper - inelegant, but will work.

What make is the square gutter? Different manufacturers make slightly different square sections

 

[Ray Stafford]

For example, if its Polypipe, their part code RS 216 converts square plastic to half-round cast.

 

[martind]

Hi Ray, thanks for that link. Let me show you the photo of how my cast gutter has been left by the builder that fitted the square gutter on the house ajoining mine. I am not an expert, but it seems a bit unfair that he has capped off the "run off" fitting after inserting the new square gutter on the neighbour`s side, thereby preventing the water in my gutter from entering the shared drain pipe. He has just put silicone sealer between my gutter and the "run off" fitting.

I told him I was not happy, but he left without changing anything.
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc353/martindennisuploads/G9.jpg
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/cc353/martindennisuploads/Guttera.jpg

 

[basildog]

Class !
Cracking job that !
The fitting I am afraid will not work as the levels are different ?
Why anyone changes from cast to plastic is beyond me but do not start me on that one !
It will probably work as is but I too would not be happy and sugest you talk to neighbour if you get on ?
Only answer now really is a hopper I am afraid !

 

[lame plumber]

what a botch all round is my only thought

 

[martind]

Basil,
I cannot see how it will work as it is.
After explaining the issue to my neighbour, I have asked her if she would contact the builder. Although I feel that my neighbour is responsible (for the builder) she is not at fault. The builder is the one at fault of course (path of least resistance etc when doing the job).

Can you tell me a bit more please about how the issue could be resolved with a “hopper”. Any links / photo?

 

[SafeGasInstall]

You can use Rays special square coppir pipe I am sure he does it up to size 2"

 

[basildog]

Basil,
I cannot see how it will work as it is.
After explaining the issue to my neighbour, I have asked her if she would contact the builder. Although I feel that my neighbour is responsible (for the builder) she is not at fault. The builder is the one at fault of course (path of least resistance etc when doing the job).

Can you tell me a bit more please about how the issue could be resolved with a “hopper”. Any links / photo?

A hopper would be placed under the 2 adjoining gutters !
No stop end on neighbours so both are free to flow in to the hopper ?
It is a bodge all round as noticed the guttering on neighbours bay window now runs under the soffit unlike yours ?
Not sure he really was a builder but I guess anyone can call themselves anything they fancy these days ?
I will look and see if can find a picture to explain ?

 

[martind]

You can use Rays special square coppir pipe I am sure he does it up to size 2"

2" square copper pipe? I don`t think I`ve ever seen that. How does it fit this application/job?Thanks.

 

[Killy Bing]

2" square copper pipe? I don`t think I`ve ever seen that. How does it fit this application/job?Thanks.

Squibe pipe, its the current craze. We all use it in the south now.

 

[Ray Stafford]

2" square copper pipe? I don`t think I`ve ever seen that. How does it fit this application/job?Thanks.

See this thread.

More practical for your purposes would be one of these:



Ugly but effective

 

[martind]

Basil, is this the item (hopper) that I ned to sort it?
http://i527.photobucket.com/albums/...s/Roundline-Downpipe-Rainwater-Head_large.jpg

EDIT: You bet me to it Ray.

Anyone know the make ref part numbers?

 

[Ray Stafford]

In Polypipe they are RR130, RR140 and RL140 followed by a two letter colour code - ie BL = Black.

RL140 is too large for your needs and has a 110mm outlet. IIRC both the RR130 and the RR140 have 68mm outlets shaped so that they can be used on either round or square downpipe.

 

[martind]

In Polypipe they are RR130, RR140 and RL140 followed by a two letter colour code - ie BL = Black.

RL140 is too large for your needs and has a 110mm outlet. IIRC both the RR130 and the RR140 have 68mm outlets shaped so that they can be used on either round or square downpipe.

With both gutters being at different level now, will this effect the idea of using one of these hoppers or will it be ok?

 

[martind]

The “builder” returned at the request if the neighbour, so that is something positive. The part he has now fitted looks like the picture that Ray posted in post No3. It is never going to be a “proper job” due to the difference in height of both gutters-hence the copious amount of mastic sealer that has been required to bridge the gap (see pic).

I noticed also that the drain pipe goes all the way down and is touching the grid over the drain, thus preventing the grid from being removed for clearing the drain. If clearing was required, the drain pipe would need to be removed, and any disturbance would no doubt break the seal on the gutter.

As Lame plumber said , “a botch all round”