Thanks for the welcome Whl4852 an Croppie. Sorry im not Italian, just have a appreciation for the renaissance. Well Im in London an 31. Been a Painter & Decorator for about 7 years an just had enough of it. The trade has gone right downhill, long hard hours for substandard pay. So made the change a year ago, done my NVQ 2 course an got in with a really good plumber. Having a great time learning the trade and am more an more confident as each day goes on. My boss loves to throw me in the deep end and see how I come out of it, which helps massively as you learn so much when having to do sumthing on ur own. It also shows he has confidence in me which in turn gives me the boost to do it. Wish i changed trade along time ago but ifs an buts are pointless. Im just gettin my tools together now which is 1 of the main reasons im on here to get sum opinions on a few things. I should probably post those queries in the plumbing tools section right?