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mcinnes01
Hi
My plumber has asked me to purchase my new boiler, tank and accessories and has given me his advice on what I need, but has left the specifics up to me.
And so here I am and a little confused after looking at the many options available.
A little background...
I have a fairly large 115 year old 4 bed mid terrace, with a cellar the full size of the house and we are getting round to doing a loft conversion eventually. (Just the 2 of us currently)
We have 1 bathroom up stairs with a pumped shower fed from the hot water system, a kitchen, utility room and normal shower in the cellar (I know a little weird but the shower is moving to the loft eventually). So 4 outlets in all.
The plumber is a Valliant specialist but will fit anything and is recommended from the family building firm.
Currently we have 37 year old glow warm pumped system.
The current problem is the Y type valve is on upside down and has burnt out 5 valves as it occasionally leaks and drips on itself (we have only been here 6 months and I had the nice surprise of having to unwire it one morning as it shorted half the house). (We are also rewiring)
Currently we have to have the heating on to get hot water as the valve as described above is somewhat manual. We also have issues when a few people visit in that the hot water runs out after 3 people have showered. Also we have no thermostatic control and no radiator in the kitchen which has broken electric underfloor heating.
The plumber has recommended getting a combi boiler and a storage tank and the a 28kw boiler should do the trick because of the store.
The boiler and tank will go next to each other in the cellar where the current boiler is.
We haven't decided fully but we may keep the current plumbing in terms of radiators, but I don't know how old they are and forgot to get the plumber to look at them. The pipework in the cellar is currently sitting on top of the joists and part of this work will include moving this up in to the joist cavity so I can insulate and re-plaster the ceiling in the cellar. The boiler and tank are also moving which will simplify the pipework a little and a lot of the pipework needs removing where the current boiler is as I need to replace 4 joists.
What I am hoping to achieve...
Have as much or enough hot water with the ability to replenish quickly, as I need.
Good water flow (which we have now).
Ability to control heating in different rooms or zones.
I was also thinking S-type valves and perhaps the ability for the shower to switch between using the store or just run direct off the combi for example in summer.
In terms of boilers I was looking at the valliant 837HE and the 210L valliant storage tank maybe, but this is where I need some advice?
I also don't know if the boiler have 2 ports out or if I need a 2 port valve etc?
I don't know the best way or if it is worth control each room or zones? I am doing a home automation project and I was thinking of having inline solenoids on the radiators that I can control myself to control each room separately?
Also I was thinking of putting some radiators in the cellar to help keep it dry but have these on a zone or individually controlled. In terms of control for the zoning or individual rooms this isn't a problem as I do electronics and have a few control ideas already.
I would appreciate your advice in terms of boiler, cylinder, magni clean, valves, stats etc, the proposed system and whether to replace the radiators?
Also where is best to buy this from?
The plumber said if I get a valliant combi, get the valliant cylinder as it makes wiring etc simpler. What are your opinions? I do have a spark working when we do this as I doing a full rewire.
Many thanks,
Andy
My plumber has asked me to purchase my new boiler, tank and accessories and has given me his advice on what I need, but has left the specifics up to me.
And so here I am and a little confused after looking at the many options available.
A little background...
I have a fairly large 115 year old 4 bed mid terrace, with a cellar the full size of the house and we are getting round to doing a loft conversion eventually. (Just the 2 of us currently)
We have 1 bathroom up stairs with a pumped shower fed from the hot water system, a kitchen, utility room and normal shower in the cellar (I know a little weird but the shower is moving to the loft eventually). So 4 outlets in all.
The plumber is a Valliant specialist but will fit anything and is recommended from the family building firm.
Currently we have 37 year old glow warm pumped system.
The current problem is the Y type valve is on upside down and has burnt out 5 valves as it occasionally leaks and drips on itself (we have only been here 6 months and I had the nice surprise of having to unwire it one morning as it shorted half the house). (We are also rewiring)
Currently we have to have the heating on to get hot water as the valve as described above is somewhat manual. We also have issues when a few people visit in that the hot water runs out after 3 people have showered. Also we have no thermostatic control and no radiator in the kitchen which has broken electric underfloor heating.
The plumber has recommended getting a combi boiler and a storage tank and the a 28kw boiler should do the trick because of the store.
The boiler and tank will go next to each other in the cellar where the current boiler is.
We haven't decided fully but we may keep the current plumbing in terms of radiators, but I don't know how old they are and forgot to get the plumber to look at them. The pipework in the cellar is currently sitting on top of the joists and part of this work will include moving this up in to the joist cavity so I can insulate and re-plaster the ceiling in the cellar. The boiler and tank are also moving which will simplify the pipework a little and a lot of the pipework needs removing where the current boiler is as I need to replace 4 joists.
What I am hoping to achieve...
Have as much or enough hot water with the ability to replenish quickly, as I need.
Good water flow (which we have now).
Ability to control heating in different rooms or zones.
I was also thinking S-type valves and perhaps the ability for the shower to switch between using the store or just run direct off the combi for example in summer.
In terms of boilers I was looking at the valliant 837HE and the 210L valliant storage tank maybe, but this is where I need some advice?
I also don't know if the boiler have 2 ports out or if I need a 2 port valve etc?
I don't know the best way or if it is worth control each room or zones? I am doing a home automation project and I was thinking of having inline solenoids on the radiators that I can control myself to control each room separately?
Also I was thinking of putting some radiators in the cellar to help keep it dry but have these on a zone or individually controlled. In terms of control for the zoning or individual rooms this isn't a problem as I do electronics and have a few control ideas already.
I would appreciate your advice in terms of boiler, cylinder, magni clean, valves, stats etc, the proposed system and whether to replace the radiators?
Also where is best to buy this from?
The plumber said if I get a valliant combi, get the valliant cylinder as it makes wiring etc simpler. What are your opinions? I do have a spark working when we do this as I doing a full rewire.
Many thanks,
Andy
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