homade power flushing machine

[CXR100]

hi all just wondering if it was possible to do your own power flushing machine?? i was thinking of putting a submursible pump in a gorilla bucket type thing and connecting the hose to 1 of the pump flanges and then run another hose from the other pump flange back to the bucket. anybody tried or seen this working???? the submursible pump pumps 90ls per min
thanks

 

[jase158]

I have always thought about this, but....

1. how would you dump water? you would need to empty bucket a lot
2. this would be as powerful as the cf40, but would be very precarious as to water levels, i.e.

if you could get big enough bucket or water butt, long hoses, and a submersible pump, might be worth a go.

however why not just stick chemicals in for 4 weeks, with central heating running, drain down and fill up again.

 

[PlumbBobBob]

i would have thought that a gorilla tub wasn't stiff enough although i may be wrong. what about a loft type tank, larger than a f&e but smaller than normal cwst.

 

[Dannypipe]

I did consider this, as for what they are, we pay through the nose.

That's why I love homemade alternatives like those often used to put glycol in ground source loops. (a bloke put a picture of a brilliant one up on this forum just the other week).

However with a powerflush, I think you will end up spending a lot on pump ect and end up with something second rate. You need to know you're not going to end up with black sludge everywhere.

Bite the bullet and buy a machine. Mine was paid for within the first two weeks. Fair enough I haven't used it for a couple of months, but its allready earned its keep and can stay put in the understairs cupboard along with my pipe freezer.

I keep the pipe freezer and the powerflush in the house, as they're tools I don't use every day but are too valuable for me to have nicked from the van/ garage.

The question is, what flusher do you buy!!?

 

[jase158]

i would have thought that a gorilla tub wasn't stiff enough although i may be wrong. what about a loft type tank, larger than a f&e but smaller than normal cwst.

Why would it need to be stiff, it is only holding water?

 

[Dannypipe]

Nice Avatar Steveb, and who says plumbing doesn't pay well!!

 

[PowerFlusher2]

Why not just use mains tap water through two hoses with the flush just dumping directly into a drain?

 

[CXR100]

as you can pick up pumps for £40ish quid off ebay brand new i think its wortha try, as ive only got one job to do at the moment i think its worth a try

 

[ecowarm]

Here I tried my Magnacleanse with and without my Fernox P/F machine and the difference the P/F machine makes is amazining. Also the addition of the Magnacleanse to my P/F is amazing. They work very well together.
The set up above is the best and fastest way to flush a system that has a problem with sludge. If the system is mildly dirty then a flush through with mains water would do the job. With a proper powerfush machine it is the velosity of water and the option to change the flow direction at a pull of a lever to loosen stubben deposits that does the job properly. I have never used a vibraclean attachment and I personly think you are asking for trouble doing so. The above set up works best with the boiler on if posible. I use Kamco FX2 with the best results, I have tried Fernox and Sentilnel products and found that one best.
For an average property of 3-4 beds say 8-10 rads it is still a days work, I test and record the results for each rad as I go.
The other proplem that needs to be addressed when powerflushing is the reason the system go sludged up in first place and put it right, which is what I do. It could be the pump fitted in the wrong position or the feed and vent crossed over. This needs to be corrected or in 6 months the system will be a bad again.

A profesional job with the correct tools is the way to go in my opinion.

 

[PowerFlusher2]

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Here I tried my Magnacleanse with and without my Fernox P/F machine and the difference the P/F machine makes is amazining. Also the addition of the Magnacleanse to my P/F is amazing. They work very well together.
The set up above is the best and fastest way to flush a system that has a problem with sludge. If the system is mildly dirty then a flush through with mains water would do the job. With a proper powerfush machine it is the velosity of water and the option to change the flow direction at a pull of a lever to loosen stubben deposits that does the job properly. I have never used a vibraclean attachment and I personly think you are asking for trouble doing so. The above set up works best with the boiler on if posible. I use Kamco FX2 with the best results, I have tried Fernox and Sentilnel products and found that one best.
For an average property of 3-4 beds say 8-10 rads it is still a days work, I test and record the results for each rad as I go.
The other proplem that needs to be addressed when powerflushing is the reason the system go sludged up in first place and put it right, which is what I do. It could be the pump fitted in the wrong position or the feed and vent crossed over. This needs to be corrected or in 6 months the system will be a bad again.

A profesional job with the correct tools is the way to go in my opinion.

Can't agree more that it is the velocity of the water which shifts the gunge. Faster the water goes through the pipes, more gets picked up. Just remembered about one guy I knew, many years ago, used to use one of those small pumps you spin with an electric drill - had to use a big bucket because the pump used up the water much, much quicker than the mains could fill the bucket! But it worked, which was the main thing.

 

[Guildfordboiler]

All you anti Pf lot make me laugh when i hear comments like add a chemical leave it a week or 2 and drain down or stick a hose pipe on the mains and thats good enough what a load of rubbish the only way to fully get rid of all sludge and iron oxide is a full PF done properly and i mean a full day on the average 10 rad system

 

[Barry98]

Guildfordboiler , you may want to read the dates on post this thread is from feb , but thanks for bringing it back to life

 

[AWheating]

All you anti Pf lot make me laugh when i hear comments like add a chemical leave it a week or 2 and drain down or stick a hose pipe on the mains and thats good enough what a load of rubbish the only way to fully get rid of all sludge and iron oxide is a full PF done properly and i mean a full day on the average 10 rad system

anti pf lot?? this post is about making a home made machine, whats anti pf about that? if you want to start a educated discussion about the subject why not start a new thread?

 

[lazyhorse]

hi cxr100.my van got broken into recently,and they did a clean sweap including my kamco cf40 powerflush machine.
to cut the long story short,didnt have content insurance, had to get back to work and earn some money,so ive made my own machine,its as powerfull as the cf40 and it pushes out 2bars.works fine for me,will stick with it until i can afford to get a new one.is a draper deep water submersible pump 750w/95 lmin/head is important anything below 15meter won't push up 2story building.mine's 24m/ the next one up is 36m head with pressure up to 3.5bar.hope this helps

 

[Reg Man]

I think its great inovatation. but would still buy a Kamco or similar, because I can't be bothered to make my own flushing system.

 

[REDSAW]

i wanna see the drawings!

some numpty made one once and called it a kamco?

 

[Dannypipe]

hi cxr100.my van got broken into recently,and they did a clean sweap including my kamco cf40 powerflush machine.
to cut the long story short,didnt have content insurance, had to get back to work and earn some money,so ive made my own machine,its as powerfull as the cf40 and it pushes out 2bars.works fine for me,will stickView attachment 11310 with it until i can afford to get a new one.is a draper deep water submersible pump 750w/95 lmin/head is important anything below 15meter won't push up 2story building.mine's 24m/ the next one up is 36m head with pressure up to 3.5bar.hope this helps

What a brilliant first post!! Very clever.

 

[lazyhorse]

cheers dannypipe.trying me best to mix it with the big boys,did'nt want to get kicked out in the first week.:24: if i make it to the level of ukpf pub member,my work here is done.....

 

[Dannypipe]

Well, welcome to the forum mate.

It's not as easy to get kicked off here as some would make you believe.

Look at Croppy, he was once a trouble maker. Now he's a traitor, I mean moderator!

 

[Ray Stafford]

It's not as easy to get kicked off here as some would make you believe.

Wish I had known that before I sent Dan the cheque.

 

[Dotty]

I saw that Danny you twonk!

Welcome to the forums horse, interesting first post. Keep it up lad, you'll soon have 100 posts and then you can help us prop the bar.....

 

[Dannypipe]

Sorry mate, don't hit me mate!!

 

[Dotty]

If I did you'd only set your daughter on me. We both know she'd be the only one walking away from that scrap.......

 

[Whl4852]

i wanna see the drawings!

some numpty made one once and called it a kamco?

Post some drawings, nice work by the way and welcome along to ukpf

 

[peteheat]

Welcome to the forum lazyhorse.

Nice job, I too would like to see more details very well done.