I have a cracked 1.5" pipe elbow going into a 4" main drain under basement floor. How do I fix this?

[Whitbydad]

Hey guys

My wife noticed water on the floor in our basement. What I can see is that the elbow is cracked where a 1.5" down pipe enters a 4" pipe that goes beneath the basement concrete floor.
My thought is that I have to break up some concrete to replace the 4" pipe/clean out and reattached the 1.5" pipe once this is done. The crack is where I put blue tape to show you guys.
What are your thoughts?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Best to see if any local plumbers have a socket saver

also it looks like it’s cracked due to movement due to not support / clips / joint under stress

might be best to remake the joint with a piece of tube and a 90 instead of a street 90

 

[Whitbydad]

Best to see if any local plumbers have a socket saver

also it looks like it’s cracked due to movement due to not support / clips / joint under stress

might be best to remake the joint with a piece of tube and a 90 instead of a street 90

I was wondering if there was a way of reaming it out. I've never heard of a socket saver. I only have 7.5" of clearance from the fitting to the concrete foundation wall so I guess I'll have to use a 90deg drill in order to ream it out.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Either 90 drill or worse case socket set or ratchet spanner take some time but easier than breaking the concrete

 

[Whitbydad]

Either 90 drill or worse case socket set or ratchet spanner take some time but easier than breaking the concrete

Ok ill look into that. I'm guessing I would need a 2" socket saver?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Same size as the pipe so if it’s a. 1.5 pipe 1.5” socket saver required also the same specs eg schedule

 

[Whitbydad]

Same size as the pipe so if it’s a. 1.5 pipe 1.5” socket saver required also the same specs eg schedule

I will research the method you've suggested. I realize you've probably got a million other things you could be doing so I really genuinely appreciate your help.
Dave

 

[Ben-gee]

Saw through the m/f 90 elbow and moved the vertical pipe aside.
Using care and a very sharp chisel you can pare out the remaining pipe from the socket and re-use.
I would replace with two 45’s, and clip that pipe!

 

[gmartine]

Yeah that vertical needs to be supported first, IF its partially cracked ie the upper circumference only Id clean it as best I can and fill the crack with Puraflex 40 which will basically go off like solid rubber but only as temporary measure.

 

[BN9Pete]

The pipe and fittings in the photo don’t look familiar to anything I’ve seen before. Is the OP not from the UK?

 

[Ben-gee]

The pipe and fittings in the photo don’t look familiar to anything I’ve seen before. Is the OP not from the UK?

Doesn’t really matter in terms of answering the question.

There is a Whitby up by Scarborough, however I dare say there are several places called that around the world.....

 

[BN9Pete]

Doesn’t really matter in terms of answering the question.

There is a Whitby up by Scarborough, however I dare say there are several places called that around the world.***.

Yes it does matter in my opinion.
The OP is asking for advice from professional plumbers, as I have been in the trade for 35 years I was interested in this photo, as I have never seen this design of pipe.

Also if the OP lives overseas this may help with the advice, it would be pointless a UK plumber saying trot down to Screwfix and buy a connection to fix the issue if the pipe size and system are totally different.

Hope this answers your question

 

[Whitbydad]

Yeah that vertical needs to be supported first, IF its partially cracked ie the upper circumference only Id clean it as best I can and fill the crack with Puraflex 40 which will basically go off like solid rubber but only as temporary measure.

I dried it and put more yellow solvent and it has done the trick temporarily.
A closer look it looks as though the connection that goes into the 4" pipe is 2". To my untrained eye I think the elbow on the 1.5" downpipe is glued to that 2" inlet into the 4" pipe.

 

[Whitbydad]

The pipe and fittings in the photo don’t look familiar to anything I’ve seen before. Is the OP not from the UK?

I'm in Whitby, Ontario, Canada.

 

[BN9Pete]

Many thanks for the reply.
As mentioned I didn’t think I had seen the pipe design before.

 

[Whitbydad]

Best to see if any local plumbers have a socket saver

also it looks like it’s cracked due to movement due to not support / clips / joint under stress

might be best to remake the joint with a piece of tube and a 90 instead of a street 90

To me it

Yes it does matter in my opinion.
The OP is asking for advice from professional plumbers, as I have been in the trade for 35 years I was interested in this photo, as I have never seen this design of pipe.

Also if the OP lives overseas this may help with the advice, it would be pointless a UK plumber saying trot down to Screwfix and buy a connection to fix the issue if the pipe size and system are totally different.

Hope this answers your question

I'm in Whitby, Ontario,Canada.

 

[king of pipes]

You need a wheeler Rex pipe hog it will bore out the broken fitting allowing a repair to be made. Kop

 

[Whitbydad]

You need a wheeler Rex pipe hog it will bore out the broken fitting allowing a repair to be made. Kop

Yeah I just ordered a socket saver. Now all I need to do is chip away a little concrete under the fitting and get a right angle drill. $$