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The last straw has been reached with our Ideal (ha!) Isar boiler and it has got to go. We've had a quote for installing a Worcester boiler in its place but want to look at Intergas as a comparison as well.

We're struggling to find someone local (West Wiltshire) who fits them, none that are close enough are registered in their website. Short of phoning every engineer in the phonebook how do I go about finding someone who has experience with them?

I have no idea where to atart so any help would be gratefully received.
 
Just get any local guy to price it if he needs help tell him Plumbase are stockists. i am a fan of these boilers although never fitted one. You would be better off getting a Vaillant anyway. Did you know that in the Which consumer tests Worcester boilers they tested performed as band b boilers as did a number of other so called A rated appliances. I don't trust the aluminium heat exchanger in the worcester either.

Regarding warranty you will get three years as standard with intergas 5 if you can find a fitter. That said if you get a plumber and he calls the rep he may give 5 years anyway.
 
Thanks for the replies. Its not so much a price comparison, its more about getting a better quality product which is reliable. Our current boiler has broken down four times in the last two years, even when it is working its noisy and the hot water supply is erratic. It isn't that old and was such a big investment for us we really don't want to get stung with a lemon product again!
 
If its reliability that you want, a Worcester Bosch boiler wouldn't be ideal in my opinion as they do breakdown often, with their plastic components and aren't very friendly to work on.

You might get a five or six year warranty with some boilers, but don't be fooled. Everything won't be covered and you may still have to pay for parts or labour that won't be covered for the full term.

Vaillant boilers are usually regarded as being amongst the best and more reliable, you might not get a long warranty, but it will probably breakdown less often than others.

Intergas boilers seem to be really good, I've not come across one, but from what I've read/heard they seem good. Someone close to you should be able to still fit the boiler, even if they haven't done the training course with the manufacturer.
 
No matter what you choose " Just make sure the existing system is thoroughly Powerflushed and a filter on the return"

We are offering as an Approved installer the 6 year Warranty for W/Bosch boilers, ends 1st September.

Kev.
 
If you have a Vaillant boiler installed by an approved installer you will get a 5 year warranty.
 
No matter what you choose " Just make sure the existing system is thoroughly Powerflushed and a filter on the return"

We are offering as an Approved installer the 6 year Warranty for W/Bosch boilers, ends 1st September.

Kev.

Same here and it's full parts and labour but we've been fitting them for 10 years and had very little problems.
 
If you know a decent heating engineer or can be recommended one get them to go on the intergas training day and then they can offer you 5yr warranty
 
As a consumer, I'd rather have a reliable boiler with a 2 or 3 year warranty than one with 5, 6 or even 10 year full parts and labour warranty that is going to breakdown and require regular attention. I can't help feeling that the long warranty offered by some manufacturers is not a sign of reliability but a marketing ploy to suggest reliability to would-be purchasers. I am sold on Intergas boilers and their innovative simplified design with fewer moving parts - separate heat exchangers for CH and DHW eliminating the need for a motorised diverter valve, condensing action in both CH and DHW mode without a secondary heat exchanger, no auto-airvalve etc. - and their ease of maintenance and repair. I had one fitted 18 months ago in a house I let and I'm very pleased with it. I have had absolutely no problems with it and the fuel bills have reduced dramatically although I have to say it did replace an inefficient old Gloworm with a back boiler. It looks as though it will live up to its promise as an efficient reliable unit. I am about to have another fitted in my parent's old place. Plumbase stock the boilers and also gave me the names of a number of independent local plumbers they knew had fitted Intergas boilers. These were in addition to plumbers in the area who had attended the Intergas training course that I got from the Intergas website.
 
seperate heat exchangers is not a new idea from intergas at all, although i think there boilers are quite good and dont have moving parts its a bit of play on advertising, as its fundementaly a just the same as a old 4 pipe system, with seperate heat exchangers! and the hw flow rate suffers and is is poor compared to the equivilant kw combi,! i am also offering a 6yr warranty at the moment with worcester bosch, and have had very little problems with there boilers, have heard a sneaky rumour they are offering 5 yrs out of the box come september time but no sure how true it is so i guess accredited installers may keep the 6yr or maybe even 7 but all whispers at the moment!
 
I originally planned on getting the WB 30CDi combi which according to their spec gives a DHW flow rate at 40deg C of 11 l/min but I have changed my mind and settled on the Intergas equivalent HRE 36/30 which gives a DHW flow rate at 40deg C of 15 l/min.
Both have virtually identical max gas flow rates of 3.4 m3/h
 
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I must of fitted around atleast 100 worcester boilers last year and only a handful gave a us problems (pcb was one and another had a dodgy wiring loom) And done about 50 vaillant ones this year (mainly 831's) and only had 1 problem with a dodgy fan connector.

From an installers point of view I would always choose a vaillant as these seem alot more solid compared to worcester which seem flimsy.

The only things I know to go a Vaillant is the seals (I'm not a break down engineer thought just what I have seen while on call)

I fitted a vailant yesterday and they seem to have had a slight revamp inside the seals looked different and the prv has changed a bit dunno if this is for the better tho maybe one of the more experienced guys could let you know :)
 
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