ladders and working at hight regs..

[Stu3y]

just wondering (been doing H&S at college) the working at hight regs 2005 states that ladders cant be used for longer than 30 minutes and if a job is going to take longer than that a platform or scaffold should be used.

what if for instance, the gap between 2 houses was to small for a scaffold or platform, but the job was going to take an hour? is there loop holes for situations like that?

 

[Ermintrude]

The wording is reasonably practicable.

 

[basildog]

Watch the guttering and fascia boys they use ladders all day long !
They would never get a job if a full scaffold was erected at every job !

 

[tamz]

is there loop holes for situations like that?

In the real world: get a subby in and pass the buck :lol:

You can get 2ft wide scaffold but they also say working from a ladder is allowed for low risk work (whatever that is) when features of the site mean a ladder is the only possible means of access. Depends on the risk assessment.
Health and safety is all about covering your rse and the bigger the firm the bigger the rse.

 

[tamz]

Watch the guttering and fascia boys they use ladders all day long !
They would never get a job if a full scaffold was erected at every job !

The ones that make me laugh are the paint the roof guys. They even had them on telly adverts just walking along in their sambas :lol:

 

[basildog]

Now that roof painting is a joke ?
Normally a local roofer could strip and re roof for less than those lot charge !

 

[Mike Jackson]

If the ladder is properly tied back and you use a harness the ladder can then be defined as a work platform and you can work for longer.

 

[Leo21]

Where can you get a decent flat rung ladder? These horrible square rung things kill my feet! By the way I wear samba.

 

[snowhead]

These horrible square rung things kill my feet!

That's a clue you're working on the ladder too long.

 

[chris watkins]

Whats the longest one that can be used ? Didn't they ban them over a certain length? I remember being sent up one of those wooden trebles which took three of you, it had the old ropes & pulleys to get it up & down.
Were they 21 or 25ft it went up over three stories & move in & out from the wall by 6ft as you climbed up half way. Oh happy (but scary) day's.

P.S. also the old wooden painter cradles in which you place your life in your mate at the other end as you both untied the ropes & pulled (together) yourselves up the building.
We might moan about H&S being OTT but want to go back ?

 

[Stu3y]

there was noting mentioned on the longest ladder that can be used in the health and safety lessons we have had at college so far.. i know theres different classes of ladders and that some insurance company's require a class 1 ladder to be used and if an accident happens and its a class 3 ladder they wont pay out etc. its a bit of an eye opener these lessons at college, i didnt know half of these regs! :6:

 

[basildog]

There is no law for maximum height of a ladder just that a platform must be provided at I think every 9 metres !

My old triple was 13 metres I seem to remember !
It was just the right height to get up a Georgian manor house we used to work on and had just enough height to project above a parapet wall !
You will be on a scaffold tower next I guess at college ?
Chances are the guy teaching will not have a PASMA ticket and you cannot erect one without so why they show you is a mystery to me ?

 

[Stu3y]

i dont think we have to use a scaffold at college, most of this H&S stuff is theory, apart from been assessed on lifting and moving objects! the exam will be in a couple of weeks, then after that we finally get to crack on with what we are there for! plumbing and heating!