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Am I right in saying it is illegal for a qualified gas engineer to not investigate a reported gas escape and take no action. I ask because the company I work for has reprimanded me for capping off a gas supply which was leaking and reported to me by a member of the public. The reason given was that I was carrying out work not given to me by this firm. I was not paid for this job by the way.
 
surprised your company has taken this action maybe due to insurance but it is seen as good practice to investigate and cap imho
 
you require the permission of the owner or responsible person of the premises to cap it, if you dont get it the you give them there warning tickets and get the gas board involved
 
ive misread, your right as far as i know, you cannot leave an ID situation without taking action
 
Yes mate, it was the house owner who called me in. I was working nearby.
 
it will be in the gas regs for sure, remember being told at college, if you are aware of an ID you must address it. But saying that how far do you have to go with an example like this? Think i also remeber being told that in similar instances you could simply ask them to turn off there ECV, ventilate and report to gas emergency.
 
Your company may have some kind of point if you were not hired to do work in that property. If you aren't working in that property, nothing to stop you from instructing the homeowner to turn off the gas and you can ring the Grid for him/her.

However, if by capping off the gas, you some how did damage to the property, your employer could be held liable.
 
I was just following instinct and could smell gas upon entering the house. I capped off at meter and instructed householder to call out an engineer to put right. When I told work to cover my back they went mad. Feel Ive done nothing wrong and am being hard done by. Fair enough I could of turned off at ECV and called supplier but I was happier capping off and not worrying about the possible outcome.
 
imho , i would of done same in your shoes , dont take this wrong way but how old are you ? feel free not to answer
 
i would have turned off gas, told customer of dangers, phoned transco then went back to my work
 
i wouldnt feel bad, you potentially saved a life or lives......why feel bad. You know next time not to do it if working for your current employers just get them to turn off and make the call
 
strange then i could of maybe understood it a little if you were a nig , but hmmm maybe someone at work on a power trip ?
 
maybe you have a company registration, and that person was not employing your company.
 
Yeah mate, I get the feeling they think I was doing a fiddle job. This reprimand comes from a manager who isnt gas safe but a sales guy. Just got my back up and wanted to know where I stood legally.
 
They were out of order for reprimanding for acting safely to a potential dangerous situation.
I can understand their position though as you were working in an unauthorised capacity as far as your employer is concerned.
Next time, with the tenant permission turn off the ECV(that's what it is there for after all) and call the Emergency lads out. You will have done your bit.
 
From what i recollect safe guarding life and property is top of the shop! I'm assuming you put a tightness test on before capping? Otherwise how would you know if the smell of gas was on the interior or incoming gas suply? IMHO you did the right thing though! :)
 
something in the regs about a duty to protect life and property-make safe.

tell him he's talking outside his qualification capability then ask if he is instructing you to be negligent.
next tell him i dont want paying for that hour so technically i am on my own time, so sod off.lol.
 
it does seem a bit OTT , but where to draw the line? you were gettig paid by your employer so technically you should only do their work, and there is no way i would have capped a supply in a non cutomers house, if SE do what you want, but as employee i can just see the hassle if you do TT and there is an issue later, all sorts of legal hassle will follow, say you did a TT and found a drop (you could smell gas, so its likely) so you cap the meter and tell the punter to get a gas engineer i to sort the leak, then the house blows up because there were 2 leaks, one on the outlet that you made safe but also one on the inlet that wasnt identified/rectified, "but you didnt tell me to phone the supplier, you told me there was no panic as you had capped the supply, and i was gonna call my mate on saturday"
CYA at all times, if you must enter the property, turn off EVC, ventilate and advise them to contact supplier then get out of there, technically your emplyer can moan at you for working on your own job and using their material, ok its extreme but if they let you off another guy will get caught changing a boiler during the day as a homer and will say "im only doing them a favour as they could smell gas" haha
PS well done for caring and doing the right thing, but in this day and age im not sure i would have capped it
 
personally i would have advise the person to follow standard safety guidelines and contact the grid. You open yourself up to alot of problems with your company if you do more than that and as soon as you enter and touch anything. Its a sackable offence to "compete for work" which you could be acused of if your gaffa's are bob heads.
 
Yeah, some good advice here. I wont be doing anything in future bar turning off ECV and calling transco.
 
worst thing that ever happened to this country was the introduction of no win no fee lawyers everyone is so worried about being sued you cant even do whats right anymore
firemen that need a ladder to get into 2ft of water whiles a body is floating springs to mind
 
Youre right there mate. Now ive calmed down a bit I can see both sides of the argument and I guess it could well have been a customer trying it on another day.
 
Am I right in saying it is illegal for a qualified gas engineer to not investigate a reported gas escape and take no action. I ask because the company I work for has reprimanded me for capping off a gas supply which was leaking and reported to me by a member of the public. The reason given was that I was carrying out work not given to me by this firm. I was not paid for this job by the way.
He was right you were not sent to check on a gas leak. However as for being the last person on site you had a duty to report it to 0800 111999 because if you left it and there was an explosion you would most certainly would be in the doc. To make safe the leak was not wrong in its self so I would not dwell on it. All you had to do to make safe was to isolate it by means of the service control valve and tighten the back nut that would have the locked of the supply.
 
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