level 3????

[obseen16]

hi all.
im looking to do abit more learning after doing my G&G 6129 and spotted a local plumber who has written on the side of his van that he is qualified to City & Guilds level 3. what is this equivelant to and what topics does it cover, even better has anyone done this course and was it worth doing?

im also looking into doing my part P and all the gas courses eventually to.

 

[anz]

Hi,

For further information on the course visit:

[DLMURL="http://www.cityandguilds.com/cps/rde/xchg/SID-93378012-69D49C32/cgonline/hs.xsl/1651.html?search_term=6129"]City & Guilds | Qualification | Certificate in Plumbing Studies[/DLMURL]

I am currently doing this course and I think that it is definitely worth doing as everything is more detailed and there is also some gas work involved, so if you want do to do gas eventually, it will be good to have this.

It's very unlikely that you will gain employment with just the Level 2 (unless your already employed) as most plumbers regard this as a 'Mickey Mouse' Course.

Good Luck!

 

[obseen16]

cheers for that, ill be ringing my local college about this course, i was working full time with a plumber a while ago but he went into industrial gas and i went self employed. but the way i see it is i might not be self employed forever and the more qualifications i can get in plumbing the better.

oh by the way is this the 6084 one? or am i in the totally wrong place lol
thanks for the link,

J

 

[anz]

The previous link is for the 6129 Level 3, which is a Technical Certificate, if you want the full NVQ that is the 6089 (Further details on link below). You have to be employed to do this, you can't do it being self employed on your own.

[DLMURL="http://www.cityandguilds.com/cps/rde/xchg/SID-93378012-69D49C32/cgonline/hs.xsl/Plumbing.html?search_term=6089"]City & Guilds | Qualification | Plumbing[/DLMURL]

6084 is a Energy Efficiency course, there is no need to do this yet, until you start working on domestic boilers and heating systems.

 

[sonray ltd]

you can do the 6089 self employed on your own but must be trading min of 5 yrs .

 

[obseen16]

ah i see, i didnt think i could do an nvq self employed anyway so not to worry, think i will go for the 6129 level 3 as i just spoke to my college and it doesnt start till sept 2009 but i can wait hehe. thanks guys

 

[tonyn]

ive done this course and in my opinion it is well worth doing ,
Think of level 2 teaching you how to solder, be safe, basic requirements ect ect ect, Think of level 3 designing heating sytems, domestic hot, cold water design. correct pipe sizing , heat loss, gain in heating systems. and some gas work ie pipe run size , pressure loss ,boiler sizing.

definatly give it a go , apart from it being neccesary to be fully versatile in the work place i found it very interesting and informative.

 

[dorset]

There is nothing in the scheme handbook that states to complete the 6089 level 3 self employed you have to have a minimum 5 years experience.
If you are self employed and are not working with a fully qualified plumber then everything in the Candidate Workplace Evidence Record (portfolio) must be directly observed by a qualified assessor.
Very time consuming and costly, so i recommend you complete that qualification under the wing of a qualified plumber

 

[sonray ltd]

>There is nothing in the scheme handbook that states to complete the 6089 level 3 self employed you have to have a minimum 5 years experience.
how do you work that out then you won't even get to level 2 without 5 yrs in the trade.

>If you are self employed and are not working with a fully qualified plumber

once you have passed level 2 you are qualified.

>Very time consuming and costly, so i recommend you complete that qualification under the wing of a qualified plumber

don't talk stupid theirs plumbers out their been doing the game for 20 yrs with paperwork and you think they are going to tag along with a qualified plumber.

and they are dam site better than any newby with papers 100 times over.

papers don't mean nothing just that you've read a book.
experience will get you along way.

 

[dorset]

Firstly i dont much care for your tone!
Secondly read what you have written if you have been plumbing for 20 yrs why on earth would want to do a qualification!!!!! Also this site and particularly this topic is aimed at newbys as you call them. Everybody has to learn sometime whether they are 16 or 46. There seems alot of hostility towards people who wish to career change! I have no problem with that as long as they go about it the correct way.

I dont seem to remember saying in my post that a newby with papers is better than a person with 20 years on the tools and no qualifications, maybe you would like to point where i said that? I take from your hostility and the chip on your shoulder you have no formal qualications. I suggest you use your knowledge and experience to help people on here or stay quiet.

Now back to the question;
Level 2 can be completed in 2 years or less so where does 5 years come from?
Finally being though it is the City and Guilds who produce the standards new Plumbers work too i was just informing who so ever was interested what was in the standards.