Microbore and wider radiator advice needed

[Kingdoz]

Hi,
I wonder if anyone can help. I am about to order a much wider but thinner and lower modern radiator as I have a relatively thin hallway and it would look much better. I just realised that I have microbore and also full concrete floor which pipe goes into under skirting so I won’t be able to extend pipe under floor without crazy work. Can anyone suggest what parts I should order ready for a plumber to extend this to fit wider rad? Apparently the new radiator can be bought with a pair of angled valve/trv and says it comes with converters with 8mm 10mm or 15 mm so that seems ok. As per drawing I would probabaly either need 2 x 90 degree angles (valves of some sort?) or I could bend microbore 90 degrees twice, once for extending the pipe and one to fit into a valve at radiator end so would it be best to just use a piece of microbore and bend it twice, or should I buy a couple of ready made parts. Should I even use a wider pipe instead of 8mm copper which I have already some in my garage? By the way it’s the return pipe that will be increased in length as opposed to inflow pipe into the radiator, so would it even matter too much if bending extra pipes or buying 2 angled parts? What parts shall I buy to make it all work, as I would rather order all now from internet so I can get a plumber to come when he’s ready and not have him drive all around shops looking for parts that may be hard to buy or will end up looking bad in case he doesn’t have all correct parts with him. Thanks all for any help.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Are you happy for the pipe to be run on the surface/ skirting ?

 

[Kingdoz]

Not 100% happy, but 99% as will be much happier with this and a long wide modern radiator than it is now. I think it’s the only real option without going crazy on messy diy and costs so I think yes, I’m ok with over skirting, as would hardly be seen (once painted) and will under the radiator and people look from top down (unless you have another suggestion that won’t take up flooring and require major skirting or plastering mess). I also wish to make sure I get full heating from it hence coould do with help on best way to minimise flow problems and best connections for this job. Just trying to avoid a double visit by a plumber...

 

[Kingdoz]

Ps, if it helps, this is what I’m planning to change to but obviously will place it much lower on wall just above the skirting. Milano Capri - Anthracite Horizontal Flat Panel Double Designer Radiator 472mm x 1780mm

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Looks like an easy job for a pro other than a new set of valves you shouldn't have to supply anything else

 

[Kingdoz]

Thanks Shaun, I just I recall my last pro on a different radiator didn’t have 90 degree connections for microbore, (in fact nothing for microbore) so we ended up having run across town and he could only find some parts, so ended making weird bends and had to go out to buy connections, so would ordering a couple of these be the right parts to make life easier for a plumber and to do me a better job? Will these restrict flow/heat on microbore or just ask him to bend as needed? https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01JOYFZS4

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Doesn't sound like a pro to me 8 or 10mm is easy to get hold of either tube or fittings hell have a look at screwfix

Best to have a soldered elbow also looks like 10mm

 

[Kingdoz]

Thanks, my pro came off Taskrabbit.co.uk , as I dont know any plumbers my area. So is this what you meant? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Compression-Elbow-Degrees-Fitting-Thunderfix/dp/B01JOYFZS4

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Thanks, my pro came off Taskrabbit.co.uk , as I dont know any plumbers my area. So is this what you meant? https://www.amazon.co.uk/Compression-Elbow-Degrees-Fitting-Thunderfix/dp/B01JOYFZS4

wouldnt use them again tbh

would ask your friends and family have they got a decent plumber if there in your area

or ask on here im sure we have a few in your area

and the link is the same one as before?

 

[king of pipes]

I think Shaun means solder fittings bud you can get 10mm soft copper on a coil a 10m length get a pair of straight radiator valves to 10mm to . cheers kop

 

[Kingdoz]

Thanks king of pipes. I measure my micro ore and it’s 8mm, so do I need the elbows in 10mm like you image or just 8mm as per here. I have some extra 8mm pipe at home for it.
. https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=diy&field-keywords=8mm+end+feed+elbows

Thanks to all.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

you going to try and do it yourself?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Thanks king of pipes. I measure my micro ore and it’s 8mm, so do I need the elbows in 10mm like you image or just 8mm as per here. I have some extra 8mm pipe at home for it.
. https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias=diy&field-keywords=8mm+end+feed+elbows

Thanks to all.

8mm same size pipe as the fittings

 

[Kingdoz]

Not myself, just get all possible parts myself so plumber doesn’t waste time faffing about finding parts or c9ming t9 look first then coming back

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Wednesbury Wednesbury Microbore Copper Pipe Coil 8mm x 10m | Copper Pipe | NoLinkingToThis

either

Solder Ring Elbows 8mm x 8mm 2 Pack

or

Flomasta End Feed Elbows 8mm x 8mm 2 Pack

your choice i would get two packs of each just incase you can always take them back

 

[gmartine]

I'm afraid with that style of radiator any visible microbore will stick out like a pretty girl with a couple of weeping sores on her face.

Go the extra and recess it behind the skirting and in the wall connecting directly into the rad as per your catalogue picture. Yes you or your tradesman will have to channel the wall but most of it will be covered by skirting with just a bit of finishing required for the risers.

 

[king of pipes]

If you have 8mm then yes extend in 8mm fittings and pipe think i would run the pipe in a small plastic trunking above the skirting and dont forget a couple of 10mm x 8mm or 15mm x 8mm reducers for the rad valves these would work well. Cheers kop