My new Wilo Gold 50 central heating pump

[Chrissyspad]

Hello everybody.

I've just joined the forum as I was advised that it's really informative and solves problems.

I hope you can help on this one then? I've moved to Portugal and rented my house out. The letting agent informed me that the tenants had problems with the heating and they sent someone out to repair it.

The plumber told us that it was the heating pump at fault and fitted a new one. It has solved the problem, but my son had a look when the house was empty and his comment was 'where the hell did they dig that old pump from?' Is this an old pump, or an old design? It cost quite a lot of money, so I was expecting a new pump.

Does anyone have knowledge of these Wilo pumps. I attach two photos.

Thank you very much for your opinions. Hopefully my son is wrong about this!

 

[ShaunCorbs]

you sure it wasnt the 3 port what was changed above the pump (looks new ish)

 

[Chrissyspad]

No, it was definitely the pump. According to the letting agent and the invoice (plus the old pump was different).

 

[Best]

Yea, - as Shaun said, the 3 port valve body looks fairly new (with old nuts).
The circulating pump is definitely old and that exact model hasn't been sold here for a few years now. So unless someone had that as very old stock, then it ain't new. Sort of looks used anyhow.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

you can still get them but there getting rare if there new and tbh looks second hand

 

[Harvest Fields]

Might just be old stock that he had on the van. Get the letting agent to question it with the plumber. How long has it been fitted?

 

[Chrissyspad]

Thanks for replies. It was fitted a month or so ago.

 

[Best]

That pump has a date code in the number. Wilo would confirm when that pump was manufactured if you contacted them.
How much did the alledged new pump replacement cost?

 

[Chrissyspad]

Thanks. That's a good idea.
It cost 240 for the job. He did not specify parts and labour. And there was no VAT.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Don't think they make them like that anymore. I know grundfos do not sell there version of that pump now.

 

[Best]

I haven't been able to buy those pumps for years. Wilo produced smart pumps which had larger electric black part, for extra electronics. Now most pumps are A rated and definitely different design.

 

[king of pipes]

Not a new pump in my view and the wiring is atrocious twin and earth straight into the pump is not the way . cheers kop

 

[Best]

Thanks. That's a good idea.
It cost 240 for the job. He did not specify parts and labour. And there was no VAT.

Obviously the plumber has his expenses, plus I guess the letting agent takes a small cut, but £240 for that seems a rip off, particularily if that pump is an old stock pump, or worse, - a second hand pump that possibility was used thinking you being the landlord wouldn't notice. Landlord living in Portugal might not bother much with rental in UK, - or perhaps just my suspicious mind.

 

[Chrissyspad]

Not a new pump in my view and the wiring is atrocious twin and earth straight into the pump is not the way . cheers kop

Thanks for your information. My son said the wiring wasn't correct but I guess that's how it was before. An electrician did come last year and rewired a lot of the house (I was living there at the time - I guess he missed it.) I think I need to have a quiet word with the letting agent.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Thanks for your information. My son said the wiring wasn't correct but I guess that's how it was before. An electrician did come last year and rewired a lot of the house (I was living there at the time - I guess he missed it.) I think I need to have a quiet word with the letting agent.

I would but tbh that pump will probably last longer than the new erp type

 

[Chrissyspad]

You're probably right but if it's old, I shouldn't have paid so much for it.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

You're probably right but if it's old, I shouldn't have paid so much for it.

No very true but probably new in someone's spares bin for a while

 

[Ric2013]

tbh that pump will probably last longer than the new erp type

Agreed. But are we even legally allowed to install non-erp pumps? I thought they had to be erp these days even in a direct replacement scenario such as the OP's?

Or are we still allowed to use them provided they were manufactured before the new Part L came in?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Agreed. But are we even legally allowed to install non-erp pumps? I thought they had to be erp these days even in a direct replacement scenario such as the OP's?

Or are we still allowed to use them provided they were manufactured before the new Part L came in?

Yes we still can the same as we can still install non erp boilers until there's no stock

 

[Ric2013]

Good to know. Makes sense, to be honest.