Mystery Shower Valve and other questions!

[as7533]

Hi All,

I've moved into a new place and I'm having some trouble with the thermostatic shower, which is warm at best, despite a piping hot inlet.

I've taken it to bits, given it a descale with some vinegar and lubricated the seals. This did the trick for 10 mins or so, but it then went back to running warm.

What lubricant should I use on the seals and can replacement seals be purchased?

Also any ideas on the manufacturer - pics attached?

Strangely the pipe centres are 140mm, but with some adjustment available in the threads.

Any help greatly appreciated.

 

[Chalked]

Not sure of the make but thare should be a temperature adjuster inside the centre of the temperature control knob, behind the ceramic cover. You need a long bet very thin flat blade screwdriver.

 

[Irish]

Looks kinda like a swadling valve to me , but your best bet is email them pic to shower doctor

 

[Simon F]

welcome to the forum as7533

high temperature silicone grease
Toolstation > Plumbing > Consumables > Plumbers Grease.

 

[as7533]

Thanks for the quick responses and help. I think the shower may be an Ultra 3/4 Dual Control (showerdoc).

Going to order some new seals and regrease properly which will hopefully do the trick.

 

[Plumbstar Tom]

3rd picture, middle piece is the thermostatic element. That looks stiff to me and may need replacing. ~Check that your cold water is not too powerful by running a few cold taps whilst the shower is

 

[Masood]

I'm pretty sure that's an old Hudson Reed valve. I had to buy new cartridges recently for a customer and I emailed Hudson Reed a photo. 100% identical to yours.

It's a discontinued item, but this is the email from their customer services team:


The shower in the image is our product code A3091 which is now an archived item but we do still do a service pack for the valve.

Product codes are as follows:-
SNINASF Cartridge £123.00 including VAT and P&P
SASFOR O Ring Kit £0.00 free of charge We recommend all the O rings are change when the cartridge is changed
SA3091HK Handle £0.00 free of charge The original handle will not fit back on so we send a replacement handle out as part of the kit.

Hope that helps!

 

[Ray Stafford]

I think the shower may be an Ultra 3/4 Dual Control (showerdoc).

I'm pretty sure that's an old Hudson Reed valve. I had to buy new cartridges recently for a customer and I emailed Hudson Reed a photo. 100% identical to yours.

It's a discontinued item, but this is the email from their customer services team:


The shower in the image is our product code A3091 which is now an archived item but we do still do a service pack for the valve.

Product codes are as follows:-
SNINASF Cartridge £123.00 including VAT and P&P
SASFOR O Ring Kit £0.00 free of charge We recommend all the O rings are change when the cartridge is changed
SA3091HK Handle £0.00 free of charge The original handle will not fit back on so we send a replacement handle out as part of the kit.

Hope that helps!

It would make sense. Ultra Group own Hudson Reed, and a lot of the engineering is common across platforms, with just the design elements varying by brand.

 

[Masood]

It would make sense. Ultra Group own Hudson Reed, and a lot of the engineering is common across platforms, with just the design elements varying by brand.

That's useful to know, Ray. Maybe some common parts as well...