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i have posted a job on vworker for anyone who wants to write the tables for the uk/eu gas sizing using the main run method?

goto vworker search, select "projects" for "UK gas sizing"

this forum wont let me paste the link as im new....


TABLES MUST BE PROVED TO WORK

nat gas and lpg at all pressures, domestic and commercial, 300m

Developer can have rights to the tables.
of course as long as i get any updates in the future.
 
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Why? Are you looking to carry out work you're not qualified to do in the UK?
 
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why not? wouldn't leave here for quids. ive been there, ive seen enough.
 
Your request doesn't make sense. You work here, you do your acs, you work within the guidelines laid down. You work down under, you do the Australian equivalent of the acs, you work within the guidelines laid down.

And never the twain shall meet!

Welcome to the forums by the way!
 
you jobs safe mate, its our jobs that aren't, so many pommies over here working.
 
Still not sure what you're asking or why you're asking for it but your best bet would be to take a look here...

IGEM Shop. Utilization (UP)

That pretty much covers it all. However, I go back to my original point. To work on gas in a country you have to be qualified to work under that countries legislation. For example, I live and work in Northern Ireland, which comes under the UK scheme, but occasionally travel down to work in Eire, which doesn't. To do this I had to do a mutual recognition course to enable me to work there. So, if you have guys coming to work for you down under, they should be trained, tested and qualified to work on your gas installations, and likewise when you send barstaff up to us! :jester:
 
Thanks for the link, yeah they can only be registered in Australia, which means just working under a licensed plumber, unless they do the gas refresh course, fairly easy stuff. find a leak in gas line, commission a storage hot water and answer questions on a computer, using the regs. My son could do it! while looking for these tables on the net, i see how much more you guys take gas seriously. The basic gas plumber (type A ) in aust, doesnt learn half as much as you guys. commercial licensing is more like yours (type b) you can see by this link of our regs igs.nigc.ir/IGS/OTHER/NZS-5601.1.PDF (this is exacally the same as aust)

We have a bit of a mining boom here and there is not enough labour to go around.

IGEM still use the general UK method? i saw it somewhere, ive looked at alot of there publications and cant find anything like the tables, you can see the tables on page 140 of the above link and the method of main run sizing around that page.
 
Where did you do your ACS?

CCTS, Tamar St. Good people and they looked after me for my crossover paper and then when I had to renew my ACS's. The only complaint I have is the money I spent(wasted) on the crossover paper would have easily payed for GID/GIS which is a open ticket at the moment.

If you don't already have it get yourself a copy of IS EN 1949(LPG REGS)if your going near any mobile/static homes in the South.
 
Aye, I did mine with ccts too, that's probably why Gerry accommodated us and put me through the crossover, or mutual recognition as It's properly known, afterwards when we unexpectedly picked up contracts down below. I'll be honest Gary, you impressed me a few threads ago. Most of the gas guys I've come across in the republic don't inspire much confidence! I don't do any domestic stuff, commercial only, so that could be why!
 
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Thank you, Im Ex BG from before they ruined it, so I have my moments.

The South has some very good gasmen but their self taught and out numbered by the fruitloops as there is no gas training and sparks wire heating systems:lol:. It's a 10 day course to be a registered gasman and their putting people on the dole on to the courses, I was going to go on the dole till I found out they'd just put me out to work again.
 
Just to ad to the original message, i can help with the understanding of the method. I'm looking for someone who is a gas experienced maths buff. ? anyone?
 
I don't get it, why can't you just convert the axis, it will be the same table?

What are you trying to achieve?
 
I don't get it, why can't you just convert the axis, it will be the same table?

What are you trying to achieve?

mate if you can do it you get the cash. As im an aussie i have no clue (axis???) whats going on over there. i know a small amount ive read on the net.
 
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why the negativity? i dont want this thread to end up a slanging match, just read it and if you cant do it move on, ill find someone else, someone will do it.
i know i could do the tables ive been a gas plumber for 24 yrs and my maths is quite good, i just haven't the knowledge of gas supply pressures in the uk, etc, or the time to research it.

Its actually quite easy to do, the icc have been producing the charts ever since i started and probably 20 or more years prior. I'm sure you could just convert them as every other region has in the world, apart from the UK. The fact is its the easier way to size gas pipes, very quick.

do them and ill pay you.
 
Its hard to get information in the UK.

Its used more like currency now days or a fence to keep people away from lucrative fields of work. Its not like the US or it seems the rest of the world were a lot of information is traded for free. Our training establishments rely on people not knowing things, it then allows them to sell their courses to them.

Yes training and information in the UK has become a growing industry.

The likes of British Standards are a laugh, which country in its right mind publishes major recommended safety standards and then charges a small fortune for people to get a copy of them?

As you say you are not planning to use the information in this country, so like everybody else, should you not be allowed access to the information for free, you can't use it unless your GSR anyway?

So I suppose, if you know already, they can't make money by telling you, so they don't tell you.
The problem is keeping information secret probably leaves many people ignorant of many things they should know.

You will notice that perhaps the older guys probably know a lot more about different things than the younger, probably because most of them learnt the game when it was wide open and the likes of nationalised BG would usually tell you anything for free.

Any subject ignorance was not looked upon as a local cash point for future sales but a person interested in the subject for the sake of interest and so information was usually freely supplied.

My thinking is that information should be free for anybody to get. The like, of gas work is now probably 80% knowledge based compared to what it once was and so with the help of government regulation a huge exclusive information mountain now exists which can be mined and sold like gold.

I doubt it will change either, one of the causes of the restriction is that training courses have to now be financed by the training places, as the government has stopped funding and one way to get people to buy courses is tell them nothing and let them pay for it.

The government has helped that situation to come about, through the gas regs, that states you must show you have gas knowledge to work on gas. So were do you get the knowledge from?

Expensive courses or very expensive books. And there is not much really new knowledge involved, most of it has probably been around for years, so all they have to do is recycle and repackage it, and they can then sell it to you for loads of cash.

It's good business if you think in business terms and great for governments who do not then have to pay out for training colleges. Problem is the customer eventually pays for it all and can't find out what they are really paying for?
 
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