nvq 6129 what next NVQ HELP

[dukenukem006]

my son has passed his 6129 but with no portfolio evidence his tutor says he has to do it over next term and come back the following year to start 2nd year . he has now started with a company and they say that they can finish it for him in 12 weeks all the work needed as they want this so he can get his second year out the way this following term is there companies out there we can pay and register with to complete his nvq so he can enrol on 2nd year apprenticeship at college they have that much work on with the company he has started with that they don t see a problem in getting all evidence thay need him on his 2nd now rather than starting in another year i am aware of all work needed but they are committed and my son is also in helpling him . IS THERE A WAY OF GETTING IT DONE

 

[SimonJohns]

Sorry to break the bad news but a 6129 is not an NVQ. An NVQ is a different qual that will work with the 6129 to become a full level 2 student

Your son will still need to do the second year. But it is vital that your son also enrols and completes the NVQ level 2 as this will give him an entry into gas


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[fuzzy]

there is a lot of work in the upgrade from 6129 to nvq 2, you need to be aware of that. it may not take 12 months but at least 6 months even for the most enthusiastic young learner.
he may have to do the new 6189 diploma

 

[Kimou]

The 6129 is basically the joke of the industry. This is what the last Labour government wanted to introduce into every school for 14 year old boys, but couldn't due to health and safety issues. They then went on to propose to get teachers[read-non plumbing related] to teach this, but industry representatives that teach and keep standards real said "what will you do with all the REAL plumbing teachers and engineers, sack them?" So they opted to implement in some places instead of a complete step-change.
At best it's a foot in the door.

 

[fuzzy]

never heard of that kimou, do you have any links to this info?

 

[H2ODAN]

I have always associated it with what kimou said as that was what was happening the last year i left school.
If you was able to choose between the diploma and the nvq what would you choose.?

 

[Kimou]

Here is a course that says it's aimed primarily at the 14-16 age group.
Plumbing Training | EDI Level 1 National Award PLumbing Courses

Fuuzy.
I will ask him specifically next time I see him and let you know if I can remember this thread as I'm interested to know more also.
This is another link from 1999. About the proposals being set in motion and never came to pass.
BBC News | Education | Woodhead says pupils should learn a trade

 

[fuzzy]

I have always associated it with what kimou said as that was what was happening the last year i left school.
If you was able to choose between the diploma and the nvq what would you choose.?

diploma and nvq? there was no diploma till this year, and now its an nvq diploma

 

[fuzzy]

Here is a course that says it's aimed primarily at the 14-16 age group.
Plumbing Training | EDI Level 1 National Award PLumbing Courses

Fuuzy.
I will ask him specifically next time I see him and let you know if I can remember this thread as I'm interested to know more also.
This is another link from 1999. About the proposals being set in motion and never came to pass.
BBC News | Education | Woodhead says pupils should learn a trade

thats nothing to do with the tech cert mate. thats the governments considerations on 14-16 year olds doing vocational learning. there are specific vocational courses for these, not the 6129. the 2 things are not linked

 

[Kimou]

Tories move to further undermine the plumbing and trades' sector. It's very worrying as this will involve companies working together with colleges to take on students as part of their course giving free labour and one less job for the qualified plumber/tradesman.

Michael Gove is right: we need more overalls and fewer suits - Telegraph

 

[Kimou]

Fuzzy, I said I will look into it regarding the 6129. I may have misquoted that bit or misconstrued. Those links are just information to back up the level's basicness and gov't past intentions.

 

[fuzzy]

the last government took their ideas from the Tomilinson report into 14-16 education when they considered vocational 'diplomas' for this age group.

The 6129 is a tech cert developed by summitskills, the sector skills council for building services engineering. they design all BS courses and designed the tech cert as all college based learning and assessment for the level 2 plumbing qual. the nvq is just the on site bits of the same qual. it allowed people to work towards an nvq if not employed in the industry.

the 6129 is a very good qual

 

[fuzzy]

this should clear it up for you

http://www.ukplumbersforums.co.uk/plumbing-courses/19487-c-g-tech-cert-nvq-eal-facts-you.html

 

[Kimou]

the last government took their ideas from the Tomilinson report into 14-16 education when they considered vocational 'diplomas' for this age group.

The 6129 is a tech cert developed by summitskills, the sector skills council for building services engineering. they design all BS courses and designed the tech cert as all college based learning and assessment for the level 2 plumbing qual. the nvq is just the on site bits of the same qual. it allowed people to work towards an nvq if not employed in the industry.

the 6129 is a very good qual

And they initially proposed to have it taught by teachers, not industry related teachers.

 

[fuzzy]

And they initially proposed to have it taught by teachers, not industry related teachers.

im sorry but im not so sure that is correct. the awarding body documents state that any assessors must have industry knowledge AND a minimum of a level 3 or advanced C&G to assess the qualification. I have never heard once that teachers were to deliver the 6129, which im pretty sure is not suitable for under 16s anyway.
the diplomas were to be delivered in conjunction with colleges. it was suppose to be a partnership providing best of both worlds. again, that is not the 6129 but the 'built environment' diploma

 

[Mohammed786]

Hello everybody

I wanted to know as I am currently working towards 6129 Basic Plumbing Studies Level 2 full-time. I have been told that I can do the 6129 Domestic Plumbing Studies Level 3 full-time 1 year in September. When I have completed that and as there is a new qualification coming soon diploma 6189 - will I still be able to achieve 6089 NVQ Mechanical Engineering Services in Plumbing or will i do 6189 NVQ and will i be allowed to do that ! example 6129 and 6189 diploma :/

thank you