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Eddie Charlton

i am a slightly mature student (well very mature) who is taking a break from electrical work in order to work with a gas engineer and also go to college to do a proper gas apprenticeship to get gas qualified. i have just finished the first year of the NVQ level 2, and hope to complete the second year and the ACS next year. Since i like to plan ahead, can anyone give me opinions on whether to do the level 3. As a pointer, my end goal is to go self employed as a gas , heating and electrical engineer (probably in two years time)
many thanks
Eddie
 
Do it Eddie while youve got the chance, it goes into much more detail than the level 2 and will give you a better technical knowledge well worth it IMHO.
 
Hi Eddie, Just my opinion and experience working with engineers in the field who have undergone all manner of entry routes. The college lads know a lot and are very healthy when it comes to assessing them after training in the field. Those engineers, including electricians who are transferring to gas who are already in the field and want to include this in their skills level often opt for the managed learning program route. You must go with your heart. If you are a mature student and already have a good level of confidence as gray0689 has said the single most important part to becoming a self employed gas engineer is the field training and assessment. Without this it doesn't matter what level you are, your dream will be slow to realise. If you have a goal then you must focus on getting a work placement, or working with a registered company, or engineer to build up your portfolio of evidence working on gas, its no use leaving this until the last gasp. More important than the portfolio of evidence needed to complete your NVQ still is evidence or assessment of solo work in the field or you will be looking at a further 2 years on completion building up enough evidence and experience to go solo. With the real part of your training and assessment 'Doing The Job' you get to apply what you learn, and learn as you go. It will also open up a whole new level of options for you and the real possibility of securing your goal in your planned time, perhaps even sooner. I happen to think that coming from an electrical background gives you a real advantage when it comes to doing the job safely. But Go With your gut feelings after evaluating any good advise. Best Of Luck
 
many thanks for your advice.
I am currently working about two days a week with an experienced gas engineer on top of doing the one day release to college that the nvq requires, and have started gathering evidence regarding the portfolio of evidence that is needed.
hopefully all will be well and i will have provided enough for qualification by the time i finish this course. i will have been with him for two and a half year by then, and three and a half by the time i hope to go self employed.
 
hi mate i did both level 2 and level 3, the main difference between the 2 is in level 3 u have to do 2 assignments where u basically design a heating system and weigh up the pros and cons and price up the job, the portfolio is pretty much the same. the only reason i did level 3 was because the company paid for me to do it, but i think level 2 is more then adequate
 
I did the level 3 and it does go into detail on being self employed, also teaches the proper method of sizing radiators, pipework etc. Depends if you want the extra knowledge, I think if you're not working every day then why not
 
Hi all, I have an important question to ask. I have completed my 6129 Technical certificate level 2 and I am now working towards my 6129 Technical certificate level 3 at Trafford College. Onces I have complete this I would like to work towards my NVQ Level 2 and 3. There is a local company near me called D.J Robbins plumbing and heating and they also allow people to work towards there NVQ as they have a small centre which now also provide ACS Gas training. This is not sum kind of fast-track training this is proper NVQ level 2 & 3 which will properly take me a good 2 years to complete. And they are experience Domestic/commercial gas safe registered plumber. I will have to have my own car to travel. However the important thing is that will EMPLOYERS CONSIDER TAKING ME ON IF THERE WAS EMPLOYMENT AVAILABLE !!! THANK YOU
 
i am a slightly mature student (well very mature) who is taking a break from electrical work in order to work with a gas engineer and also go to college to do a proper gas apprenticeship to get gas qualified. i have just finished the first year of the NVQ level 2, and hope to complete the second year and the ACS next year. Since i like to plan ahead, can anyone give me opinions on whether to do the level 3. As a pointer, my end goal is to go self employed as a gas , heating and electrical engineer (probably in two years time)




many thanks
Eddie

My feeling is that if you are going on your own the level 3 is important as it gives you gas theory and training in planning systems etc which is essential in planning other peoples systems if your on your own. Obviously the experience of working with others isessential but the more knowledge you have the more you can do and do it well. As far as poacher turned gamekeeper, welcome to the real world:)
 
Hi all, I have an important question to ask. I have completed my 6129 Technical certificate level 2 and I am now working towards my 6129 Technical certificate level 3 at Trafford College. Onces I have complete this I would like to work towards my NVQ Level 2 and 3. There is a local company near me called D.J Robbins plumbing and heating and they also allow people to work towards there NVQ as they have a small centre which now also provide ACS Gas training. This is not sum kind of fast-track training this is proper NVQ level 2 & 3 which will properly take me a good 2 years to complete. And they are experience Domestic/commercial gas safe registered plumber. I will have to have my own car to travel. However the important thing is that will EMPLOYERS CONSIDER TAKING ME ON IF THERE WAS EMPLOYMENT AVAILABLE !!! THANK YOU

if you are learning in a training centre its not the same as working in the real world and gaining experience and thats what an employer will want if you want them to employ you for a decent wage
 
Hello Lame,

No, what i meant is that it is plumbing and heating company which is willing to take me on for the NVQ Level 2 & 3 and when I build the porfolio it will be done at there centre rather then college. It is all on site work. Hope this helps. So if I was to complete Both NVQ Level 2 and 3 become Gas safe registered plumber, do you think employers will take me on rather then me going self employed. thanks again
 
You stand a chance but it is a slim one. It comes down to two things determination and luck. You stand a better chance if you are willing to take a low wage until you prove yourself. Good look with it
 

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