old boiler i.d required

[REDSAW]

heres a challenge for you,

can you identify this floor mounted boiler for me as i could not find any data plate for it, its a glow worm i believe and has a steel front hinged door.

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[tamz]

It is a glow worm as they were the only ones who used orange wires to the gas valve (you'll never get one). Early 70's boiler going by the valve. I've seen it before but can't think.
Do you not have a better photo of the whole boiler.

 

[REDSAW]

nah! the boilers been nicely tucked in by the washmachine!! so access very limited, thats the best i could get.

it was the pilot had blown out in the gales we had, the house is used as an office. i took of the inspection glass and manually re lit it as the spark generator (orange wires) was knacked and smelt of burning circuit.
does that constitute to working on the boiler? as i think it was a bit suspect on safety.
i did tell the owner and advised to get co detector and new boiler and my concern!!

btw, its dated 1964!

 

[tamz]

I wouldn't class lighting a pilot as working but last man is het these days. The old glow worms were just known as numbers like 45/52 or a 67/75 or a 52 super was another one.
Basic boiler to work on and a universal thermo will fit it if it needs one.
Talk them into a shiny new boiler that won't last a crack and hopefully they will die before it breaks down :lol:

 

[vern]

It's a Gloworm sunrod, with a 24v honeywell gas valve, that used to pi55 gas out out the knob spindle as soon as you moved them, well obsolete, I have a adapted a valve to fit in the past, with a pilot tube kit and new T/C , would do now, it's so old

 

[Ermintrude]

Looks like the system version of a house warmer.

 

[sheff paul]

I wouldn't class lighting a pilot as working but last man is het these days. The old glow worms were just known as numbers like 45/52 or a 67/75 or a 52 super was another one.
Basic boiler to work on and a universal thermo will fit it if it needs one.
Talk them into a shiny new boiler that won't last a crack and hopefully they will die before it breaks down :lol:

Must admit when ive fitted combi's into older people,s houses and took out free standers i do shudder a bit when they say''never let me down in 30 years''

 

[Roger Welton]

And when they ask you will the new on last as long...

 

[Leo21]

And when they ask you will the new on last as long...

I hate it when they ask that.

 

[Roger Welton]

I hate to say it but the only boiler available at the moment that I can see lasting 20+ years (providing pasts are still available) are the intergas.

 

[sheff paul]

And when they ask you will the new on last as long...

Normally say ''just fit em love'' ''it will save you a fortune in gas''....... Then i attend church for 'clemency'

 

[Leo21]

I hate to say it but the only boiler available at the moment that I can see lasting 20+ years (providing pasts are still available) are the intergas.

I hate the fact that you said it!

 

[galaxy_plumbing]

It's a Gloworm sunrod, with a 24v honeywell gas valve, that used to pi55 gas out out the knob spindle as soon as you moved them, well obsolete, I have a adapted a valve to fit in the past, with a pilot tube kit and new T/C , would do now, it's so old

Glow Worm Sunrod boiler-1962 magazine advert | eBay

 

[REDSAW]

Glow Worm Sunrod boiler-1962 magazine advert | eBay

thats the only thing i can find on the boiler!!

 

[Billy Bob Bob]

had to work on a 30 year old mexico tonight,4 hours to change the gas valve because some bellend had run the return in line with the gas connect it was a right pita i had only allowed 1.5 hours :32::32::32:

 

[tamz]

If we are all honest i'd bet there is not one amongst who could truly hand on heart recommend changing a good condition mexico or even a bbu or any other cast iron boiler for a condenser.
Yes they may only be running 50 - 60 % efficient but add up the numbers.
Say the average gas bill is £1000 with one of these boilers (mines is more than that with a class A). Your customer spend 2 - 3k changing the boiler for an annual saving on gas of maybe £200 (being optimistic). Payback time 10 - 15 years. Take into account that they now need to get it serviced every year (£80 or whatever) whereas the old one could easily go 5 years between servicing then when it breaks down (it will undoubtedly) you are looking at a couple of hundred a time.
The numbers will never add up and doing it for the environment is stupid.

I admit i am a charlatan and feel guilty sometimes for what i do.

Right, now that is off my chest i hope you all get out there and fleece everyone you can because we all need to make a living and installs is where the money still is :lol:

 

[Leo21]

If we are all honest i'd bet there is not one amongst who could truly hand on heart recommend changing a good condition mexico or even a bbu or any other cast iron boiler for a condenser.
Yes they may only be running 50 - 60 % efficient but add up the numbers.
Say the average gas bill is £1000 with one of these boilers (mines is more than that with a class A). Your customer spend 2 - 3k changing the boiler for an annual saving on gas of maybe £200 (being optimistic). Payback time 10 - 15 years. Take into account that they now need to get it serviced every year (£80 or whatever) whereas the old one could easily go 5 years between servicing then when it breaks down (it will undoubtedly) you are looking at a couple of hundred a time.
The numbers will never add up and doing it for the environment is stupid.

I admit i am a charlatan and feel guilty sometimes for what i do.

Right, now that is off my chest i hope you all get out there and fleece everyone you can because we all need to make a living and installs is where the money still is :lol:

If that ever gets out we're fluxed. This post needs burying very deep!

 

[galaxy_plumbing]

Leo, haha

 

[sheff paul]

If we are all honest i'd bet there is not one amongst who could truly hand on heart recommend changing a good condition mexico or even a bbu or any other cast iron boiler for a condenser.
Yes they may only be running 50 - 60 % efficient but add up the numbers.
Say the average gas bill is £1000 with one of these boilers (mines is more than that with a class A). Your customer spend 2 - 3k changing the boiler for an annual saving on gas of maybe £200 (being optimistic). Payback time 10 - 15 years. Take into account that they now need to get it serviced every year (£80 or whatever) whereas the old one could easily go 5 years between servicing then when it breaks down (it will undoubtedly) you are looking at a couple of hundred a time.
The numbers will never add up and doing it for the environment is stupid.

I admit i am a charlatan and feel guilty sometimes for what i do.

Right, now that is off my chest i hope you all get out there and fleece everyone you can because we all need to make a living and installs is where the money still is :lol:

Tamz i think we are destined to be buddies

 

[tamz]

If that ever gets out we're fluxed. This post needs burying very deep!

I checked where it was before i posted Leo :lol:

 

[Leo21]

I checked where it was before i posted Leo :lol:

its to hot, even for the arms. There are eyes everywhere!

 

[Marka1411]

Funny this thread has come up as i got called out on boxing day to a boiler off. Gaffer said its a customer we have looked after for years. When i pulled up at the house i remembered being there as an apprentice. Anyway i have never touched the boiler but new it was older than me. Luckily universal thermocouple got the boiler back to normal but as i was leaving……… i got the question off the old couple about replacing the boiler :banghead:. Knowing one of our lads serviced it in october and ringing me saying iv never seen something so old and working so good i gave my advice and said contact my gaffer he will talk you through different options. Im giving it till 2nd week in jan till i walk in the office an get……. "remember that boiler breakdown boxing day?"… go change it loll!:sosp: