olympics 2012 london

[so-solar]

Good Afternoon

Does anybody know the main contractors that have won any plumbing and heating installation work on the new site? I am trying to get on to this site but i am finding it very difficult to get anywhere. Thanks for your help......

 

[Puddle]

Hi so-solar
I have a few friends on the site ,not plumbing though,am away the weekend but on Monday will give them a ring and try to find out a tel no

 

[Puddle]

The main contractors for the village have not been decided yet,that will be decided at the end of this month but the short list is Wates,Ardmore construction , Galliford Troy and Bovis

The below link my be of some use,if I hear any more will let you know

Athletes Village

 

[Bernie2]

I've worked with Bovis in the past, when I worked for a big Plumbing contractors it was on commercial and leisure projects, they where great.

I did hear though that on housing projects they are terrible.

Olympic Village hey!

Is it true they are going to have "hot and cold running water?"

 

[tomplumb]

are you polish?

if not then dont bother, i tried to get on and they only employ the eastern europeans for cheap labour

 

[Bernie2]

Must admit its a neat little plan the company's now seem to use for paying low wages.

The going rate for any job seems to fast becoming the national minimum wage?

And what is more there is nothing much you can do about it, its not against the law.

Perhaps people should protest and ask that all prices be brought down to make the national minimum wage worth getting. After all I don't suppose people would mind being on the minimum wage if a house only cost £2000 and a car £200. Your £250 a week minimum wage would go somewhere then.

Its either that or get the national minimum wage put up to the UK national average wage level.

Even the Polish guys probably take the jobs for low pay, because getting the UK national minimum wage is like winning the lottery for them.

The thing is of course if they are not careful the skilled workers will say "Enough of all that head work, I'm off to Tescos to pack shelves for the same money!"

Then instead of building houses we will all have to live in cardboard boxes left over from all the shelf stacking. And instead of aircraft carriers we could build rafts with old oil drums and planks. And lets be honest if all our skills go that is perhaps nearly all we could do.

I must admit, I think everybody should get a living wage as a basic wage, not the minimum that its acceptable to pay a person.

 

[stevetheplumber]

20 years ago if there was a big project going on in london like canary wharf or broadgate every one knew some one working there of if you were working on it you bumped into people you knew in all diferent trades
not heard any one thats involved in any way with the olympics sites as someone has already said its full of eastern europeans

 

[git]

British jobs for british workers then eh ?

For the olympic village also add united house.

 

[Bernie2]

Liverpool just spent nearly a Billion on a giant shopping precinct. I only know one guy who worked on it and he wasn't from Liverpool.

I think the problem now days, is perhaps the design and build contracts. Which basically means a contractor and architect submit plans in a tender. The group who win, use their own labour.

And as Liverpool only seems to have small contractors now, the small company's I suppose can't tender for big jobs, it seems then that local lads may not get a look in.

Look at that oil refinery job, that all the trouble was on. The company getting the work done in Britain is French, who gave it out to an American company, who sub contracted it out to an Italian company.

You must go dizzy these days on a big job, finding out who is who?

 

[dodge]

not true,i am plumbing 394 wcs in the olympic stadium and all our guys are british

 

[stevetheplumber]

great news whats the company called?

 

[david williams]

to many plumbers chasing to few jobs,older plumbers retireing ,but new plumbers have very little experience,so get paid low wages.standerds are droping in the plumbing trade,big companies only care about how much they can make out of you.and they are partly to blame for lack of proper training [they do not want to train their own plumbers]this so they can say we cant get uk tradesmen of the right quality so we have to bring in low paid forien workers

 

[flat pack]

most of the men on site are foreigners
they have set up agents in newham collecting foreigners for 2012 for min wage

 

[terryrads]

I worked for over 3 years on the new Manchester Royal Infirmary job, Bovis was the main contractor on there. Most of the sub contractors on there employed non-british and i remember seeing on there a health and safety board which spoke 15 different languages.
If i was offered a job on a bovis site id have to think twice about working for them as the amount of times they would question our work and try and get out of paying for work was untrue.

 

[Plouasne]

Are the big boys not all the same then ?? Balfour Beety had a reputation of bankrupting small subbies, Costains Plymouth office were just the same, took a job off Monk's who had priced the job at 20 million, for 16 mill, then wrote to all subbies saying that they had the job, and if the subbies wanted the work all priced B of Q to be reduced by 25%

This was a grade 1 listed building with plenty of moulded cast iron and lead work, to match the existing work, it took me a month to price the B of Q's I received from Monk's, with long distance phone calls to iron founders in Scotland, after I had tracked down the foundries

When I did see the "top dog" at Costains Plymouth office, he looked at the last page said too dear and threw the bill back to me, thats when I got out of the trade in the UK

 

[Bernie2]

I must admit I don't know about the Olympic village, but if Brit workers are on there good on them.

Working in the Merseyside area in the 60 - 80's you where required to be union members. The companies would not take you on if you weren't. The contracts usually stipulated at least 10% or more, of contractors work force to be local labour.

Today anything goes.

If your a Brit and will work for £2 an hour you will always get work! But you won't half be thin!

 

[PlumberinLondon]

Yea couldn't agree more with Bernie2. Something needs to happen quickly regarding the minimum wage, its not high enough and more more people seem pretty content to take it. Plumber, Plumbers, Central Heating, Boiler, Boilers