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not sending him to jail gives the wrong message, he should have get 5 years...... he will probably be allowed to do his acs for free as part of his sentence.
 
he got 10 months ?? and 150 hours CS and suspended for a year
 
aww i see now, its the way i read it.

£125 to fix a dripping tap ??????????????
 
What a shame for that poor bloke. And that plumber should have easily been sentenced to time inside. Its unfair really.

I'm doing my accounts at minute for the first time, and I think I'm more scared of the Taxman than the law after reading that.
 
the law is joke in this country, see it all the time around here people getting away with all sorts and just end up with a slap on the wrist
 
that stinks , i would be sending my mates round for a re-educational visit
 
"the plumber warned him he was unqualified" - oh thats alright then...
 
And of course he didn't have public liability insurance either.
Just shocking
 
Unbelievable, The fact he has destroyed a home, traumatised a family, destroyed their possesions, and only got a 150 hours of unpaid work makes a complete mockery out of the justice system, can you imagine what the sentence would be if he were gas safe registered. Plus the fact he was working while uninsured he would have got more if he drove a car with no insurance, This bloke should be doing time
 
Perhaps the judge was frightened of being sued for giving a harsher sentence? Or was there a favour owed to a barrister?

I don't think I'm cynical ...
 
well I hope that next week the bugger is servicing the judges boiler, then maybe the judge will learn a thing or two
 
just makes ye wonder why we pay all this money out to be gas safe when that is all that happens to ye when ye dodgy not to mention the money to pass ye acs £8000 for me all in all he should have been well jailed ,suspended sentence is just a joke this countrys gone mad plus he,s left the site with an open ended gas pipe and the main at that,makes ye wonder who else is out there,scary i always have caps and stop ends just incase i have run out of something
 
uninsured and unqualified....

10 month suspended a load of crap and 150 hours ?

what a disgrace
 
On a much lesser scale it's like speeding. 3 points on a clean licence - no ifs, no buts, 3 points.

If, however, you're in court with 3 previous speeding offences with 9 points and facing another they let you off because it would cause hardship.

Ditto driving without insurance. A £200 fine and 6 points. Makes you wonder why we spend £300+ for annual insurance.
 
ohhh and apparantly you can try and hit a police officer with a machete and escape jail sentence aswell(read about this sometime last year)
 
At the risk of being lynched I don't think he should have been jailed and I think the judge got it about right. As heart-tearing as the story is and as hideous as the consequences were.

It looks to me like there was no evidence of willful neglegence or mallace of forethought. I'm not saying there wasn't either of those two things present. Just quite likely not enough evidence to suggest either. And evidence is obviously, and rightly, ALL they should go on. Not photos of burnt people or stories of heart-wrenching heroism. The effects of your crime are only relevant if you are demonstrably aware that they might occur. Otherwise, no matter how hideous they might be, I'm afraid they're just not very relevant. It's why we don't jail children. Or, rather, why we shouldn't.

He very liekly didn't leave that place thinking "I better hurry up or they'll blow up if someone sparks a cig." It was technically an accident. One down to unbelievable, inutterably huge levels of stupidity and ignorance, yes. But that also almost vindicates his defence. Who but someone who had not the first idea about what he was doing would have done what he did? I'd take some persuading he had the slightest idea it was even a risk. Or at least what consequences might be involved. He was probably just an imbecile, a low-level fraudster and someone who egotistically thought he knew a lot more than he did about the things he did. So what punishment should that type of person get when - as statistics would have it - one of them is the cause of a disaster...

When we see something that outrages our senses, pulls our heartstrings and rightly inflames every moral sensibility we can forget that the only things that matter when trying someone is what you can prove. You'd want the same if it were you. This must mean the odd shockingly dangerous, unthinking, cheating, stealing excuse for a human being gets away with near murder. Currently, that's the best system we've come up with. The judge had a hard call. I think it's too easy to presume they're soft or idiots. I think, given the system he HAS to work within - he judged correctly.

p.s. trust the daily mail to mention the price of the house...
 
Just grabbing me pitchfork and a burning firebrand, Sorry watertight I totaly disagree, firstly working with no public liability should in itself be a criminal offence, secondly he knew he was not Gas Safe therefore under no circumstances should he have touched any Gas end of. I notice that the plumber in question has now retired, well bully for him the fact that he has a nice little nest egg to be able to retire on, and I still maintain that if this was a Gas Safe registered engineer that did this they would be doing time
 
a plumber of his age should be aware of the dangers of gas even if hes not gas safe
 
Good gutsy post, WaterTight.

I wonder sometimes how many others say to themselves, "There for the grace of God..." Could happen to one of us no matter how careful we are. Chances are less likely we could end up destroying someone's house as we've got qualifications, etc, but that's why we have insurance ... the possibility is still there.
 
Hmmm - I posted before I read the above two posts!! I agree with those points as well and sincerely hope this doesn't turn into a major argument.
 
I agree strongly with what was said,
a fraudster is still a fraudster, he intentionally did the work when he knew he was not gas safe registered.
the fact that he told the customer he was not gas safe registered prooves that he knew that he should of been gas safe registered.
There should be a minimum sentence for this and I believe that it should be the same as attempted murder as that is what he has done, attempted to murder these people, wether it was intentional or not, he has still done it.
at the very least it should be arson.
retired? I guess this is for 12 months untill his suspended sentence is up and he can work on somebodys gas without the chance of going to prison.
Now put simply, if you were to work on somebodys brakes and the car crashed, you are liable.
if you were to work on somebodys water pipes and it leaked and the house fell down, you are liable,
if you were to work on scaffolding and drop something on somebody's head, you are liable,
so why hasn't this guy got a harsher punishment.
he has attempted to murder somebody, he should spend at least 10 years in prison.
I bet if he pretended to be a police officer he would of got a harsher penalty.

The whole point is that the reason people employ a plumber is because they know what they are doing. this has seem to have been forgotten and instead the price is all that matters, these days, shame really as there will be more people like this and more lives put at risk unneccesarily
 
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