plumbing and gas work

[tiling spread]

iv been working along side a builder the paster week.
fitting a new heating system bathroom and kitchen in the house that we are renewing total strip out and renew.
really liked working the plumbing side of things heating and bathroom stuff and done some gas too before you say NO!!!!!!!!

i was only running the pipe work the last 20ft to the boiler theres no gas too the house its caped off.
and we have a GS plumber coming to test all the pipe work and gas he will connect it too the gas meeter and boiler.
ment too be having a powerflushing kit dropped off soon soo hoping to get a go on it woop woop
i dont get much plumbing now days but its been fun hanging rads running flow and return gas and plumbing the bathroom in ill post some pics soon


think i mite have too book myself in too college soon for my plumbing and gas much better then just plastering and tiling

 

[AWheating]

All gas pipework must be fitted by a competent person as you well know.

who pipe sized the gas pipe?

the gas safe engineer will have to uncover and inspect your gas pipework along its entire length if your expecting him/her to sign it off.

why not just not break the law and get the GS engineer to fit it??

 

[tiling spread]

our mate is going to have a look at it all the way along im more then shore my pipe work is fine

 

[hammers4spanner]

was it clipped?

 

[Thoggy]

Why unqualified people think its just ok to do stuff and get some poor sod to sign it off is beyond me, we gsr folk pay good money to obtain the right quals to make sure the job is done safely.
im sure if anything went wrong with the people who just did this or that would turn there back on the guy that signed it off.
i will never sign anyone's work off, is it worth it for £50 or £100 whatever it is?
i got asked and told them no chance, I'd heard from another gsr to stay clear the pipe sizing was wrong and not sleeved.

 

[AWheating]

our mate is going to have a look at it all the way along im more then shore my pipe work is fine

its not just being able to solder a fitting, anybody can solder well. it needs calculating for correct size, whats the m2/hour of the appliance/s being fitted?, it must be soldered in certain ways, it needs routing to certain requirement. Your mate would be stupid if he/she is happy to ignore illegal work

 

[kirkgas]

our mate is going to have a look at it all the way along im more then shore my pipe work is fine

haha love it, im "shore" my pipe work is fine as well, but i have been doing it for a few weeks now

 

[hammers4spanner]

makes you wonder how some people get through everyday life sometimes

 

[Skelly87]

Im not gas safty registered so i dont know, but this kind of thing must really cheese you qualified guys off!! Pay your money and do your training just for people to illegally do the work you guys should be doing. Oh well at least the guy is proud of his work. Stick to tiling tho!!

 

[Dotty]

The attitude of "it's only a pipe, how hard can it be?" Is the one that gets people killed.

YOU ARE NOT WORKING UNDER SUPERVISION IF THE GSR IS TURNING UP LATER. BOTH YOU AND HE ARE IRRESPONSIBLE, DANGEROUS AND ILLEGAL.

 

[TBServices]

Think I might try tiling a swimming pool next week. What's the worst that can happen?

 

[Skelly87]

Just read the footnote on your post croppie. Have a go hero made me laugh. Very appropriate for this guy

 

[CES]

This is whats wrong with our Industry today. Builders who think they can install heating systems and getting some idiot who (allegedly) is GSR signing it off.

 

[Millsy 82]

This is whats wrong with our Industry today. Builders who think they can install heating systems and getting some idiot who (allegedly) is GSR signing it off.

Yeah they pipe up 8 rads off a 15mm pipe and then when everything goes pear shaped blame it on the bloke who signed it off.

I have worked in many places where a builder or plumber who is not gas safe has installed a boiler the people moan and moan that they have been ripped off when I say report them they say "cant be bothered", So give me their name etc and i'll report them "Oh I dont want the hassle" so stop bloody moaning at me then!!!

 

[Koogatubac]

Im not commenting on this topic since my nature would surely get me kicked off this forum and most likely arrested...

Personally - terrible is all i can say... And thats lighthearted

 

[stevetheplumber]

do you realy think on new builds the guy that puts the gas in is the same bloke who signs it of ? houses get first fixed by one bloke and he might have left the company so the last one in has to sign the work of or do you think barrets or wimpies would rip it all out and start again every tiime a fitter left before a job was finished quite often first fix teams will be 3 or 4 handed with one gasman between them do you think they care which one puts the pipes in the floor unlike some people i live in the real world

 

[hammers4spanner]

Thye companies i have worked for do exactly as steve has said , one company had a gas man who sole job was to sign off everyones gas work

 

[Dotty]

Hmmmmmm.......... I can see what you're both saying but it doesn't make it right. I think the difference there is everyone is employed by the company holding the gsr number. Something I'd have to read up on. I guess a similar argument would be on a commercial installation where the gas pipework is of a size it needs to be welded, I don't know many gas fitters who can weld to the speed and quality required, I know I can't! Not the speed anyway. By the time the gas fitter gets on site the welders completed the run and got the pipe connected at both ends. Then you also have large output boilers that require a specialist flue company to come in and get involved, can guarantee none of them boys are gsr!. Bugger, head hurts now! Gonna have to go and look this up!

 

[REDSAW]

Think I might try tiling a swimming pool next week. What's the worst that can happen?

you could drown!

 

[acecharly]

I did all the gas pipework at coventry mental health unit... 912 rooms obviously not all those rooms had gas there were maybe 35 but just for scale of size, and ran all the drops down to solenoids in the kitchens. The plantroom had a 4" main and a regulator the size of a standard dustbin lid and all site pipework was site measured as many people who work in them know there isnt allways room to swing a mouse guess who measured it up and sent a drawing into the fab shop. At the time i had no gas license and tested the pipe with a manometer twice as big as what i have now think it was 38mb test. The company got there own people in to comission it but as steve above says its not uncommon at all for unregistered people to fit gas. In my time ive seen loads of it go on.

 

[acecharly]

Hmmmmmm.......... I can see what you're both saying but it doesn't make it right. I think the difference there is everyone is employed by the company holding the gsr number. Something I'd have to read up on. I guess a similar argument would be on a commercial installation where the gas pipework is of a size it needs to be welded, I don't know many gas fitters who can weld to the speed and quality required, I know I can't! Not the speed anyway. By the time the gas fitter gets on site the welders completed the run and got the pipe connected at both ends. Then you also have large output boilers that require a specialist flue company to come in and get involved, can guarantee none of them boys are gsr!. Bugger, head hurts now! Gonna have to go and look this up!

I agree with that there was always someone in to fit the flue's

 

[TBServices]

you could drown!

Precisely. I'd be WELL OUT OF MY DEPTH! Haha

 

[acecharly]

Precisely. I'd be WELL OUT OF MY DEPTH! Haha

Yeah you might be dropped in the deep end with a job like that one day. boom boom

 

[Keefy]

I've been gas registered before and seriously considering retraining (just want CKR1 this time) in the next few months. The thing that gets on my gonads the most is when some smart bum calls me and asks if I'll sign something off.

The time it takes for me to check (and mostly fix something - pipe size or whatever) I might as well been called in the first place.

It always feels like more work to me.

 

[acecharly]

You see this old argument of "i wouldnt sign of someones work" is just not thought through and flawed. Il put it like this does everyone on here who services boilers, fires, does CP12's etc say to the customer ok love before i start id like to see the install gas cert and service report for every service carried out since? most people dont have the manual and those that do the benchmark has been filled in with invisible ink.

I look at it this way, if the jobs unsafe, boom £*** disconection fee and £*** to put it straight. Someone mentioned what about the pipesize, what if its wrong...hell if i have to run a gas carcas from the front of the house to the back where the kitchen is i charge a whack. I also know that once ive finnished it will be safe for the family who live there so its a win win. To say i wouldnt sign that of is realy biting your own nose of to spite your face because i tell you what someone else will do it and it might not be someone who knows what there doing.