Plumbing books nvq or city and guilds

[Dougie2019]

hi i am looking to buy some plumbing books and was womdering what books would be best for a new person starting plumbing city and guilds book or nvq level two book

 

[Rob876]

They are the same really, buy the city and guilds level 2 6035 in plumbing, great book which contains almost more valuable info than the level 3 book.
There are plenty of good general plumbing books available too, here's a good one
Master Basic Plumbing And Central Heating: A quick guide to plumbing and heating jobs, including basic emergency repairs (Teach Yourself) https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/1473611628/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_taa_.nRwCbWRDWY6C

 

[chris watkins]

hi i am looking to buy some plumbing books and was womdering what books would be best for a new person starting plumbing city and guilds book or nvq level two book

Can we ask for what reason you want them i.e. are they to be use along side a plumbing course ?
As what you intend to do with them will change the selection.

 

[Dougie2019]

Can we ask for what reason you want them i.e. are they to be use along side a plumbing course ?
As what you intend to do with them will change the selection.

Am looking to go in and do a gas foundation gas and want to onow the basic before i sign my self up

 

[chris watkins]

Save yourself some money, don't worry about the plumbing books just go waste your money on the gas foundation.

 

[Dougie2019]

Save yourself some money, don't worry about the plumbing books just go waste your money on the gas foundation.

Is the gas foundation course a waste of money ?

 

[chris watkins]

Is the gas foundation course a waste of money ?

Do you believe that after completing it you will be able to get work as a gas engineer ?
How are you going to get the practical experience to allow you to complete the foundation portfolio?

 

[Dougie2019]

Do you believe that after completing it you will be able to get work as a gas engineer ?
How are you going to get the practical experience to allow you to complete the foundation portfolio?

The training company gets you 7 weeks work placement to complete the portfolio

 

[Rob876]

There's plenty of people keen to put you off, if you want to do gas, you will be taken more seriously if you do basic plumbing first. Starting with the city and guilds plumbing 6035, buy it

 

[chris watkins]

The training company gets you 7 weeks work placement to complete the portfolio

Doing what - Fires, cookers, meters, pipework installations not just putting a boilers on a wall, I hope?
Do you honestly think this will provide you with enough practical experience to be able to work as a gas engineer, we don't just do the gas on a boiler as you seem to understand, so I would start the other way round like most do, learn the plumbing / heating side first before moving onto gas.
It is not the training centre you are paying that you have to convince but GasSafe or more importantly the people you will be expecting to part with their hard cash!!

You might also want to take a look at some more posts relating to gas on here, there was a guy on here posting this very morning, he is doing 10 jobs a day, 5 to 6 days aweek for £20K a year, it might not quite be the job you have been lead to believe it is ??

 

[Dougie2019]

There's plenty of people keen to put you off, if you want to do gas, you will be taken more seriously if you do basic plumbing first. Starting with the city and guilds plumbing 6035, buy it

Its gas i want to do i yhought it would be a good idea to get a basic knowledge of the plumbing side first

 

[Rob876]

It's not an easy area to get into, plumbing or gas, but if you are determined then you will.

 

[chris watkins]

There's plenty of people keen to put you off, if you want to do gas, you will be taken more seriously if you do basic plumbing first. Starting with the city and guilds plumbing 6035, buy it

No employer I know Rob will take him seriously with anything other than a 6189 NVQ, they have been taken too many times by persons posing as a Plumber cos they hold a piece of paper, when the reality is that onsite they can't put a piece of pipe in & earn the employer any money.

You imply I am keen to put the OP off, on the contrary, I want more people to join the trade, just so long as they have the skills, knowledge & passion to be a professional & not someone who is learning as they go, taking money from unsuspecting customers & dragging down rates to a point where those who are pro's (& want to continue to act as one) are struggling to maintain standards & make ends meet.

 

[Rob876]

If the course does offer you the weeks of on-site experience required to gain your GasSafe registration then I'd go for it

 

[Dougie2019]

Doing what - Fires, cookers, meters, pipework installations not just putting a boilers on a wall, I hope?
Do you honestly think this will provide you with enough practical experience to be able to work as a gas engineer, we don't just do the gas on a boiler as you seem to understand, so I would start the other way round like most do, learn the plumbing / heating side first before moving onto gas.
It is not the training centre you are paying that you have to convince but GasSafe or more importantly the people you will be expecting to part with their hard cash!!

You might also want to take a look at some more posts relating to gas on here, there was a guy on here posting this very morning, he is doing 10 jobs a day, 5 to 6 days aweek for £20K a year, it might not quite be the job you have been lead to believe it is ??

Of course I know it’s more than boilers am not under the impression after the 6 months course you know everything be a gas engineer and
Be confident enough to do gas work my idea was to do the course work along side a plumber get a couple years of experience then go for nvq

 

[Dougie2019]

If the course does offer you the weeks of on-site experience required to gain your GasSafe registration then I'd go for it

Yeah they give you 7 weeks with a gas safe engineer

 

[Rob876]

If the course you sign up to doesn't offer you a work placement (they can promise one thing and deliver another) then without doubt the hardest part of your plan will be getting to work alongside an engineer. I spoke to a gas engineer who did qualify late in life, but worked for free for 2 years to get there.

 

[Dougie2019]

If the course you sign up to doesn't offer you a work placement (they can promise one thing and deliver another) then without doubt the hardest part of your plan will be getting to work alongside an engineer. I spoke to a gas engineer who did qualify late in life, but worked for free for 2 years to get there.

I think that’s why this course is a wee big dearer as they guarantee a work placement

 

[rpm]

Of course I know it’s more than boilers am not under the impression after the 6 months course you know everything be a gas engineer and
Be confident enough to do gas work my idea was to do the course work along side a plumber get a couple years of experience then go for nvq

Try finding that plumber first, you may get an idea of just how hard even that can be unless you have family in the trade.
Use the search box for previous posts just like yours.

 

[rpm]

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[chris watkins]

Of course I know it’s more than boilers am not under the impression after the 6 months course you know everything be a gas engineer and
Be confident enough to do gas work my idea was to do the course work along side a plumber get a couple years of experience then go for nvq

Thats the way to do it.
Have you got a gas person lined up to work with?

 

[Rob876]

Look, whatever you do, get on with it, like mick jagger says it's a gas gas gas

 

[Dougie2019]

Thats the way to do it.
Have you got a gas person lined up to work with?

Yeah i have someone where i can get the off shift here and there not 5 days though aslong as i can start from the bottom work my way up and get all the proper certification

 

[Tea-Break]

Listen to what some of the guys are saying.
I don’t see how you can work as a gas engineer without a sound plumbing/heating knowledge.
It’s not all roses, I can speak from experience. Whilst ‘on the books’ I was expected to complete eight landlord and services daily and that’s fairly common. Sorry but I don’t agree with these short
direct access courses.