Plumbing???

[Tweezer]

Bizarre question but I have a plumber who has gone to my rented house and said by law the toilet needs to be screwed to the floor (we siliconed due to pipes under the floor) and all baths must have 5 feet and bath waste must be screwed to the floor. Now I appreciate siliconing to the floor isn’t the best but it’s what we decided to do and the toilet is stuck firm. The waste from bath to outside wall is about one foot so minimal and the bath came with 2 bars with feet attached..... is he talking rubbish and job building?

 

[Ric2013]

Sounds like twaddle. I doubt he can quote which law says this.

The bath etc should be installed to manufacturer's instructions. If it came with 4 feet, then I'm not sure where or why the fifth would need to be fitted. It will need lateral restraint, but presumably it'll be up against a wall and fixed to that wall in some manner as well as having feet. Similarly for the toilet: in practice, silicone (done properly) may be more secure than fixings. Toilet fixings often are not very strong and need to be assisted with silicone anyway. 12" of unsupported waste is not excessive at all.

As far as a rental property is concerned, risk assess it. Is it likely to hold up to any reasonable day-to-day use and abuse, or is it only going to remain safe if used cautiously and carefully? Realistically, you'll know if the job was bodged (really bad idea in a rental as many tenants seem to have a God-given ability to make every bodged job fail and you'll pick up the repair cost), or if actually the job was done as well as it could possibly be done.

 

[Aquarius]

Plumber talking Utter ballcocks (pun intended) 😂 Agree with Ric, installed to manufacture’s instructions, water regulations and building regulations yes.

 

[ShaunCorbs]

Cut some screws and stick them in the holes with a dab of silicon I agree tho I always screw them down as your relying on something that can debond with movement, stupid place putting pipes under the toilet (notching)

 

[Riley]

Ha ha what law

 

[Tweezer]

Many thanks for all of your replies

 

[Scott_D]

With electric UFH matting becoming popular and the electrician or tiler usually fitting it, lots of toilets I fit get siliconed down as it’s too risky drilling the floor.

 

[Ric2013]

With electric UFH matting becoming popular and the electrician or tiler usually fitting it, lots of toilets I fit get siliconed down as it’s too risky drilling the floor.

In fairness, my father's toilet is on a tiled floor and was originally screwed and grouted. After 40 years, the screws rusted through. I stuck it down with silicone sealant 10-15 years ago. It is still solid.

 

[SimonG]

With electric UFH matting becoming popular and the electrician or tiler usually fitting it, lots of toilets I fit get siliconed down as it’s too risky drilling the floor.

Same here.

 

[Ben-gee]

Electric underfloor should not go under the pan or indeed any floor standing item.
The main reason is that it can overheat locally and then fail, can also dry out the trap- seen it in a second home where they left heating on timer but were away from property for months - arrived to bad smell.

Agreed though that if you’re not involved early enough in a project you are much better siliconing pan down!