quality training 4 new to gas

[adrianfs1]

hi all, been browsing for a while, now time to ask. im from richmond north yorkshire, trained to nvq level 2 plumbing, was/am interested in getting into the gas trade, however am self employed. cant just drop employment to train with gas engineer even if i could find one to help out, not blaming them ie slowing them down, possible future competitor etc, looking for maybe a training centre who will teach all that is required and maybe provide a work placement does anyone know of one or am i just wasting my time, at this rate the country is going to run out of british gas engineers due to retirement and end up with nobody but the foreign imports (nothing against them) but what else is this country going to lose. all replies welcome, cheers.

 

[oldplumber]

there is no short cut to gas experience. if you are alredy working in the trade you must know other engineers, why not try and work alongside them to gain experience, if your any good at plumbing then they should pay you for your time if your any good and then you can get the time on the job to coplete your portfollio of work. if your going to throw in boiler into peoples houses shouldnt you be trying to get an equivalent to a 6129 level 3 certificate/nvq 3 to learn how to design heating systems and learn the basics of gas work first?
you say your self employed, so you can do one day a week at your local college or evenings in order to achieveyour aims. Before you hit back with I cant afford it, what do you know etc etc, I did all Ive suggested over 4 yrs whilst self employed as ca plumber from scratch and am now gas safe registered and still working on my own. Its not easy and youll only do it if you put in the effort, and I was 45 when i started. Oh and this country isnt going to run out of gas engineers whilst people like myself are plugging along and proving to all those of less experience that it can be done.

 

[adrianfs1]

thanks for your input old plumber, i am also 45 years young, i have researched taking on the nvq 3 but all the courses i have found involve the acs of which i need to work with a qualified gas safe engineer, i have and still do encounter working alongside gas engineers and believe it or not they all say " i have not got the time" there are not many tasks within the plumbing industry that i have not accomplished although i have had to ask for help or advice on a few occassions, i appreciate that gas is not water and can come with devistating consequences, but the powers that be make it extremely difficult to even learn, i am not by any means looking for a fast track into the trade it will take as long as it takes.

 

[fuzzy]

hi all, been browsing for a while, now time to ask. im from richmond north yorkshire, trained to nvq level 2 plumbing, was/am interested in getting into the gas trade, however am self employed. cant just drop employment to train with gas engineer even if i could find one to help out, not blaming them ie slowing them down, possible future competitor etc, looking for maybe a training centre who will teach all that is required and maybe provide a work placement does anyone know of one or am i just wasting my time, at this rate the country is going to run out of british gas engineers due to retirement and end up with nobody but the foreign imports (nothing against them) but what else is this country going to lose. all replies welcome, cheers.

We are not running out of gas safe engineers, the amount has risen over the past 10 years. We have no need to worry about those who retire or 'imports' as you put it

 

[adrianfs1]

as that maybe, forgive me for not believing that, i have contacted over 80 large and small companies and i have recieved only 1 reply no wonder i am disillusioned

 

[fuzzy]

as that maybe, forgive me for not believing that, i have contacted over 80 large and small companies and i have recieved only 1 reply no wonder i am disillusioned

doesnt that fact prove i am right, you only have one reply and i say we are not short of engineers?

 

[newbie1]

there is no shortage of plumbers or engineers stop believing the crap the training companies are spewing out

 

[fuzzy]

there is no shortage of plumbers or engineers stop believing the crap the training companies are spewing out

they dont want to believe it and so daont, then accuse us of trying to shut the door on them???????????

 

[mark.brazenor@b]

as that maybe, forgive me for not believing that, i have contacted over 80 large and small companies and i have recieved only 1 reply no wonder i am disillusioned

If there was a shortage of engineers, don't you think that you would have had more replies, from people only too happy to take you on. I seem to get at least 1 email/approach a week from people like yourself asking for help on their portfolio. I have had two working with me in the past and to be honest they weren't much of a help.

 

[fuzzy]

If there was a shortage of engineers, don't you think that you would have had more replies, from people only too happy to take you on. I seem to get at least 1 email/approach a week from people like yourself asking for help on their portfolio. I have had two working with me in the past and to be honest they weren't much of a help.

usaually slow you down as they are under your feet and ask many questions. Everyone has to learn I know but easier to train someone over 4 years with the college backing up the expereince than someone looking to do it in 2 to 3 weeks.

harsh but honest

 

[moony]

hi adrian, ive followed your posts, as you were asking for some advice a while ago that said to me you shouldnt of been trying to do the work a customer was paying you to do...

i take it your a self employed plumber? have you not met or know anyone that can help you? as your in the trade i would of thought you'd have some sort of mate to help?

good on ya for trying to get ahead but please dont attempt any gas jobs without the competence, as you have water jobs as its a whole different ball game when you come to gas.

 

[adrianfs1]

i have never attempted and would not attempt any kind of gas work without the correct qualification, dont know where you read that i was.

 

[moony]

no mate read up on a few of your posts for the wet side - just noticed you were taking on a lot of plumbing work - although you said you were a handyman, just noticed you were asking for advice on simple things how to drain a system if i recall correctly - just a bit of advice as you now seem to be heading towards the gas side, to be careful if you get offered jobs etc.