Quooker...is 110 degree water really ok?

[windyboy]

G3: ‘A hot water system that has a hot water storage vessel shall incorporate precautions to: (a) prevent the temperature of the water stored in the vessel at any time exceeding 100˚C’

Quooker: ‘The water is heated to 110˚C in the Quooker tank…When the water flows out of the boiling-water tap, the water cools from 110˚C to 100˚C and boils.

I like the idea of water cooling to boiling point. But seriously, am I missing something or do Quooker just ignore the Building Regs? (and the Water Regs.)

 

[snowhead]

G3: ‘A hot water system that has a hot water storage vessel shall incorporate precautions

Quooker, presumably, isn't a system it's a single outlet.
They've been in the U.K for over 10 years and Holland for 15 before that.
I would have thought someone would have brought up the issue, if there was one, before now.

 

[windyboy]

Maybe, but I'm not sure that the fact that there's only one tap stops it being a hot water system.

 

[rpm]

Doesn't come under G3 as there isn't a tank ?

 

[windyboy]

Why not?

 

[rpm]

Why not?

Not a storage system. ?

 

[windyboy]

3 litres of water at 110 degrees C (or 7 litres if you buy the big one). Surely that's a hot water storage system?

 

[Sharp Point]

Not a storage system. ?

 

[rpm]

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Thanks for that and I take it back. Thought it was a instant flow through which seems daft now tbh.

 

[windyboy]

Not daft at all. I was talking to a guy who owns one today and asking him how it worked. He said that the Quooker guy told him that the tank was full of superheated steam and that cold water flowed through the steam and turned into boiling water. Scary stuff.

 

[rpm]

Not daft at all. I was talking to a guy who owns one today and asking him how it worked. He said that the Quooker guy told him that the tank was full of superheated steam and that cold water flowed through the steam and turned into boiling water. Scary stuff.

Guess I was halfway right then

 

[windyboy]

 

[townfanjon]

I have customers that have these , I have never liked the idea.
Kettles , like garlic bread , they are the future !!!

 

[rpm]

I have customers that have these , I have never liked the idea.
Kettles , like garlic bread , they are the future !!!

I wouldn't have one, just something else to go wrong.

 

[SimonG]

Below 15 litres

 

[windyboy]

Yep. The one I saw today didn't even work that well. A dribble of sputtery water and a load of steam. It was bloody hot water, but that's about all you can say for it. If you were making a pot of tea you'd be standing there all day.

 

[windyboy]

I thought G3 was just about notification requirements? I can't find anything that says that the regs don't apply. Othwewise you could install anything.
I stand to be corrected on that though.

 

[Riley]

Isn’t that the idea that under 15l isn’t G3 notifianle

 

[windyboy]

Not notifiable, but I thought that the regs still applied.

 

[Rob Foster]

The answer is Wras if the device has been passed by a PAG at wras then it’s ok providing it has been installed according to its specification.
Then this needs to be re examined every 4 years , there are two testing houses Kiwa and NSF for this country who presentbto wras . Europe is different ..I know been there so
This device is deemed safe ..end of Rob Foster aka centralheatking

 

[windyboy]

I can't find a definitive answer on this but AFAIK Quookers are not WRAS approved.

 

[Sharp Point]

Doesn’t the quooker have the constant drip relief to the drain, to relieve the pressure some what? If so would that get WRAS approval due to water wastage?

I don’t know, just guessing.... I do a lot of that

 

[windyboy]

Yep, a regular drip out through the pressure relief valve on the supply pipe. I'm not sure that a drip would be a concern. More wasteful than a vessel I guess.

 

[rpm]

Below 15 litres

Thought that came down to 3 or 5L?

 

[Rob Foster]

I actually have severe doubts about quooker and it’s probably cheaper imitations available soon on eBay. Some kid is qoing to get badly burnt at some point it’s obvious. I looked at the fail safe and guess what ..you can all examine the specification and make your own judgement , I would not fit it under any circumstances no matter what it’s like throwing hot coals for puppies to chew on . Rob Foster aka centralheatking