Re. "KOP"s recommendation for a condensate connector

[Stan]

I can't put my finger on it now, but I saw a post where someone asked about connecting the condensate flexi from a boiler to fixed 19/21 overflow pipe.

One reply was just to slide the flexi over the end of the fixed overflow but as I recall "KOP" recommended a McAlpine compression connector/coupling that has white rubber seals as well as black.

Is this the one?

Flexible to Rigid Overflow Pipe Straight Connector

This one is R1M-CO as opposed to R1M (it has the black AND white rubber seals, not just the black seals on the R1M). Obviously you blokes know this already, but I didn't.

Locally it seems that neither Plumbcenter, Grahams, Plumbase nor Plumbstop keep it on the shelf. So presumably not many people use the CO version with the white seals. Maybe they just use the standard R1M and squeeze the flexi into it with a bit of persuasion? Or just slide the flexi over the fixed.

On the basis that it might serve a purpose and it had to be ordered in specially - and it was only £2 - I ordered one today - it won't do any harm.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Are you Gas safe registered?

 

[ShaunCorbs]

i just use the standard overflow coupling and cut the rubber end off it its got one bit of silicon spray and it fits all the way to the stop

 

[Stan]

"Are you Gas safe registered?"


After posting this a moment ago I did wonder if someone would ask.

Surely, in each of the other posts I have recently made I made it clear I won't be doing the work and that any installation work that's restricted to a GaseSafe installer will be done by a GasSafe installer.

 

[Stan]

i just use the standard overflow coupling and cut the rubber end off it its got one bit of silicon spray and it fits all the way to the stop

Right, gotcha. Ta.

 

[king of pipes]

That's the right couplin Stan . Cheers kop

 

[Stan]

Thanks, pleased to have your reassurance.

 

[Harvest Fields]

"Are you Gas safe registered?"


After posting this a moment ago I did wonder if someone would ask.

Surely, in each of the other posts I have recently made I made it clear I won't be doing the work and that any installation work that's restricted to a GaseSafe installer will be done by a GasSafe installer.

Do you know how many posts are posted on here a day mate? Because it is more than you could imagine and no matter how many posts you have made it sounds like you were asking for yourself. Also as an admin I am entitled to ask.

 

[Stan]

Then I apologise and, of course, respect your need to ask.

 

[Harvest Fields]

Then I apologise and, of course, respect your need to ask.

No worries. It’s all good now.

 

[Sharp Point]

"Are you Gas safe registered?"


After posting this a moment ago I did wonder if someone would ask.

Surely, in each of the other posts I have recently made I made it clear I won't be doing the work and that any installation work that's restricted to a GaseSafe installer will be done by a GasSafe installer.

So why you asking then, leave it to your installer

 

[ShaunCorbs]

So why you asking then, leave it to your installer

I guess he’s buying all the kit and pipe

 

[Harvest Fields]

I guess he’s buying all the kit and pipe

I’d still be talking to my engineer. As if something is missing or wrong he is still going to be billed for labour.

 

[Stan]

So why you asking then, leave it to your installer

Yes, indeed.

In fact why am I posting here at all anyway?

Request to mods :- Quite honestly I don't think this place is the one for me. Please delete all the, apparently contentious and inappropriate posts I was foolish enough to make. I'm obviously out of place here. I apologise.

But thanks for those who have helped. Much appreciated.

Now, excuse me while I go and find the "delete membership" button.

 

[Stan]

I guess he’s buying all the kit and pipe

Correct.

 

[Sharp Point]

I guess he’s buying all the kit and pipe

Nah, I think he’s fitting it himself.

 

[Stan]

I’d still be talking to my engineer. As if something is missing or wrong he is still going to be billed for labour.

Trust me I am in contact with him. We get on well. He won't be billing me for that sort of thing.

 

[Stan]

Nah, I think he’s fitting it himself.

Yes, of course. And you would know this because...?

 

[Sharp Point]

Yes, of course. And you would know this because...?

Very strong hunch

 

[Stan]

Very strong hunch

Ah, right you are then. Then I bow to your superior knowledge. I wish I was psychic too.

This is getting unpleasant and unnecessary.

Again I aplogise and request that the mods take down my contributions coz they're clear inflammatory and not helping the interests of the forum.

Incidentally, if you choose to look at one or two of my other exchanges with, say, Riley, for example, and the advice he has kindly given,you would see that it's obvious I'm not an installer and that I have absolutely no intention of installing the blessed thing.

But, this is not what I joined the site for and I'll do the decent thing and Foxtrot Oscar.

Happy now?

 

[Harvest Fields]

Calm down boys. We are more than happy to help and you will also get more help from some members then others. The question you asked here is border line on gas work. Which is why I asked. I wouldn’t comment but as you can see some would.

 

[Stan]

Thank you, HF. Appreciate your thoughts.

In other threads I've had meaningful, open and honest discourses with other members about my forthcoming boiler replacement.

Yes, I was very undecided about what to replace the existing boiler with. I've alternated between combi and the alternatives i.e. system versus open vent. And, yes, I've pondered on Ideal vs Baxi vs Intergas etc.

And yes, Riley has strongly recommended getting a couple of quotes rather than stick to using my GasSafe installer/service engineer mate (who I have known since 2005 or 6 as a friend as well as heating engineer and who lives just minutes awayfrom me). He has maintained and serviced my Classic Fanfare all that time and changed gas valve, fan, air pressure switch, sorted out the odd blockage and anything else I ask him to do.

Yes, I've been handy with tools over many years, since I was 18, keeping myself amused as well as earning a few shillings along the way (but not fitting boilers) but, bigrodders, why would I even think about fitting a boiler (or it's ancillaries) when I have a mate who will do it at sensible rates and who will not stitch me up and who knows what he's doing? Yes, he's happy if I get some of the bits. We understand each other. As mates do.

Anyway, I'm rambling. But do have to say I'm not over the moon about bigrodder's assertions in posts #16 and #19 and hope he might want to think about retracting them.

And now it's getting time to call it a day.

Ta. muchly.

 

[Best]

Why not ask your mate to give you some detail of all the basic parts needed?
That is normal where the customer is only supplying the gear and not installing.
If they are actually installing, then their plumber mate, or any other plumber normally won’t be helpful as it would be crystal clear who is actually attempting the work

 

[Riley]

Stan, I don’t think we would ever complain about somebody asking questions in order to do the right job or to get the best deal for them and their family. Where we draw the line is essentially guiding someone through an install. None of us have any problem with you using your mate as long as he is gas safe and holds a gas safe qualification in his own right not one from a company as the likelihood is he is not covered. You have to understand that we are understandably apprehensive, you must see it from our perspective you may not be going to do the work but the next person that reads the thread might think how hard is it and crack on thus negating our responsibility to safe working practices with gas. You must also understand that your questions have gone a bit beyond recommending a boiler and talking basic installation requirements. No offence intended but you have to see both sides of the coin here

 

[Stan]

Thanks for that, Riley.

All understood and, yes, I very much take your point.

I'll just make one more final assurance to yourself and to anyone else who sees it :-

I have decided on what I've decided on and that'll be a heat only, open vent 18kw boiler - be it Intergas or one of the other options. It won't be a Worcester and possibly not a Vaillant but that still leaves a handful of others. I was wrong to consider the combi option, but at least we've covered in and discounted it.

My mate is a self employed Gas Safe installer and maintenance man. He has, in the past, worked for a company as a service engineer doing servicing and breakdowns. As would be expected, he's done numerous courses over many years. Hopefully I've covered that point in full. Nothing more to be said.

Tell bigrodders when you next have contact, that he was mistaken in his beliefs that I'll fit it myself. That's that point covered too.

Riley, I thank you for your own time and trouble - it was appreciated.

LASTLY :- I applied to delete my account last night and was given 24 hours before it took effect. I reinstated it just now in order to reply to you, Riley. It would have been impolite not have done so in view of the help you have freely given.

Please accept my final thanks and apologies for any misunderstanding my posts have caused and for the bad feeling that I seem to have engendereed with members.

I'll either return to the "delete account" page a bit later and delete it as I feel I'm somewhat out of place here - or just lurk in the background and not contribute.

Thank you, again.