Running gas pipe to external dwelling

[manx12]

client wants to run a gas pipe to an external dwelling.(like a bbq area)..
1) do i run the copper gas pipework in the yellow conduit plastic pipe or are there other options?
2) minimum depth below ground ....750mm ??

 

[plumbnuts]

You would know if you were registered for this scope of gas work. Leave it to somebody who is!

 

[migoplumber]

manx, follow plumbnuts advice and leave well alone. apart from killing someone if it goes really pear shaped, you risk fines and jail, if it only goes slightly pear shaped


shaun

 

[manx12]

no probs...
i use my corgi guy all the time for gas works... he is away on hols at present and i needed to dig out the channel...

 

[feltham]

Migiplumberdo you remember most of the regs.
i am just finishing the gas corse i have just got to hand portfolio in to get it sent off and checked and will get tickets if every thing is fine.
i cant even remember half the regs we lernt and i spend most of the time refrencing my gas books for all the relevent information.

 

[migoplumber]

nope i cant remember a tenth of the regs, changes and ammendments.
for that reason, i have a box in van full of reference paperwork, my own little bible colection for covering myself on the gas regs. if i have any doubts, then i open my bibles (most days)

today for example i A.R. a gas meter, i just looked at the rusty meter, call national grid who arrived within 4 hrs. they decided to I.D. the instalation, but decide not to disconnect it!
now using my interpretation of my bibles, i decide to remove regulator and cap off 2" incoming e.c.v.

we cant expect to remember every reg or every calculation you have to make. we are expected to know wher to find the information we need.

as for the originally posted question, if it was posted by a registered installer, i didnt believe it was by the shear nature of question! i would of popped out to van, pulled out me books, and provided the answer he reqd.

im here to help people how i feel is best, in this case my personal opinion is my above reply.
if i feel i cant help with a post, i dont answer them.
when i need help i ask for it

good luck
shaun

 

[feltham]

im glad its not just me then . i see you post quite a lot and you seem very clued up.

 

[danielp]

yer but even if you are registered theres always qs to ask you cant remember everything

 

[migoplumber]

danielp, "registered" isnt being godlike.
just proves youve sat some exams, and paid some registration body some money.
like i said abovei ts more like being a librarian than a fountain of knowledge!!

ask your questions, if you ask the right question in the right way, i might be one of the people to answer your question directly, or if i personally feel its the wrong question, i would ignore.

is that not why we are all here?
help each other out, even if its just telling them to call a pro?


good luck mate
shaun

 

[danielp]

just i see alot of laying into people on here when they might only being asking a genuine qs between gas engineers but really the wrong information in the wrong hands can be fatal

 

[bobpape]

Hi Folks

As far as I am aware operatives running underground gas pipes do not have to be Corgi
or Capita (the same bunch of parasites that run Construction Line) registered, would not running a gas pipe under the garden come under the same exemption.

Hi Mr Moderator
What possible use is a forum that moderates out genuine argument?

 

[heatman]

Gas pipes are required to be tightness tested before any gas pipes are covered over.
New pipework must have no gas loss in the tightness test.
That is something that should only Qualified competent & Gas Safe Registered person.

Look at Corgi Essential gas safety "Exterior burried pipework"
There are 2 messurements, one for open ground with copper MDPE corrugated steel and rigid steel and one for below slabs with pedestrian traffic
also
- external control valve
- Must not pass through foundations
- BTW - minimum depth isnt 750mm
- no compression fittings to be buried
- external pipework above ground to be protected

 

[migoplumber]

danielp
there are are some people on site who just plain dont like each other, for 1 reason or another, be it differences of opinion or the the wrong/unliked reply to a question. if they dont like the person, then leave well alone or use private messaging to have the argument.


bobpage
no genuine arguement is moderated, the posts only get moderated when the genuine arguement turns into a thread full of abuse!

the thread or question posted, wants to be answered. ( we are all the best plumbers in the world and think we know it all, and have egos bigger than most ) (myself most definetly) however we all have had different experiences and prefer different materials. so we have various replies to the same question. that way the asker can take his pick

it sounds so easy, but it just isnt?!

we all just want answers to questions, ask questions, bit of banter. but i personally dont like the proper rows and abuse, neither helpfull or constructive!

shaun

 

[dontknowitall]

I don't know it all



Exept that I now that arguement is spellt argument - hehe

 

[heatman]

its true you cant remember every thing. all you need is the right books and you can look it up. viper gas book is also a good one to look at.

 

[migoplumber]

my grammar is absolutely perfect, its my big ploddy fingers, and slow brain function, that makes spelling mistakes!!
x
shaun

 

[dontknowitall]

LOL LOL - three letters is too short a message!

 

[Bernie2]

Hmm!

You can buy a cooker or gas tumble dryer or fridge and even get gas parts through the post, you don't have to be CORGI or Gassafe registered for any of that.

Its not an offence to tell people what to do with gas pipework either. It only becomes an offence if they actually do it and are not competent to do it.
And its those that commit the offence, not the information supplier, that is at fault, less every writer of gas books would be in prison.

Mellow out guys!

State the warnings first, then tell them the correct way to do things as you know it.
Its probably safer telling them the right way, than letting them decide they will do it anyway and they do it the wrong way.

As to carrying library's around with you. Well yes I did the same as Migo and still have a library even though I am retired and its not as big. There is it seems just to much to remember. But you have to adopt a feel for things to know something might be wrong and go and look it up.

 

[migoplumber]

thanks for advice bernie, and your right. tho me personally will still answer the same question in the same way, advising for a pro to be brought aboard.

the way the regs are going, i want no part of being quoted in court as "migoplumber said do it this way"

my very personal view. and yours is probably more correct


shaun